Do not ditch those manuals, they helped me setup my Joystick amongst many other things and also helped with the Boot concept. The only one I personally did not read was the installation, but to someone else it may have been priceless. I keep the box to keep everything togther, and I will need to give it away to some useful cause (how do you do that). I have covered the manuals, personally I say keep them and improve upon them. You have a good basis here that no-one else does. My server has the DVD edition, never thought I'd use it, but its proving useful. Was a damn sight fatser installating and still makes the installation of the other bits after installation much faster. The Tux pin, cute and I wear it with pride. That Linuxgram piece is atcually being ripped apart last time I looked on Linuxtoday as it looks so fake. I mean look at how there are no sources for the piece and its so piecemeal. Sorry to say, but any Linux based company paying money to that site should stop, its M$ talk. Ever look how old the apps on 7.0 are looking? Ever think how much different 7.1 is? So many of my apps are now out of date I am spending hours upgrading them (I hope they have the newer Xcdroast 0.98). With SuSE they put time and effort into making sure that the software all works together. I have a server running 7.0, with the original Kernel..There is no way I am going to build the 2.4 kernel on that, only way to get it on there is via an upgrade, and whilst I am at it I want all the other stuff upgraded too. This is not meant as a flame, but to let you realise there is another side of the fence, another side of the story. I can justify the $70 I spent on SuSE.... On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, John Ross Hunt wrote:
If all that matters is the bottom line, then yes, you are justified with the new pricing scheme. But if you're at all concerned with keeping your present customers happy you ought to reconsider. Personally, I am not planning to buy 7.1 because I recently purchased 7.0 a few months ago and can't justify the cost to upgrade. 7.0 isn't broken, so why bother at this point?
What you can do however, is eliminate some of the cruft from the current package to bring the price down to something reasonable.
Let's start with the box. I throw away the box as soon as it's opened. Ditch it.
Second. All those manuals. Never read 'em. Never will. Ditch those too.
The DVD edition. I don't have a DVD player so the DVD is pretty useless to me. Eliminate it.
All the pamphlets, booklets, flyers, etc. Useless. Ditch 'em.
The Tux pin. Cute, but unnecessary. Get rid of it.
Stickers. Dump them... Wait, no! Keep the stickers, gotta have stickers. :-)
What's left? The CD's. That's the only part I want. Give me an option to order it from your web site. Put it in an envelope and mail it to me. That's what I want, that's what I'd be willing to pay for. If $29.99 (US) undercuts the margin, I'd be willing to go a little higher. However, as a home user I simply can't justify $79 every few months.
Sorry SuSE, but if you price us out of the market we will simply look elsewhere. There is simply NO LACK of competition in the Linux marketplace. There are plenty of alternatives. And when I read drivel like this:
(Headline: Linux doesn't work, SuSE chief admits) http://www.it.fairfax.com.au/breaking/20010208/A20552-2001Feb8.html
I shake my head in amazement and start thinking that Debian is looking mighty fine these days.
-- John Ross Hunt bigboote@mediaone.net mailto:bigboote@mediaone.net
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