OK in case anyone wants to know how to advise an mx card user what to do. ( and Suse really needs to update the support database ) 1) install 7.0 clean 2) removed xfree86 stuff using yast 3) install rpms of xsuse 4.01 from ftp.suse.de 4) follow instructions in readme 5) installed suse nvidia directory as per instructions in readme 6) ran xf86config ( sax and sax2 dont see the mx version of the card ) 7) open /etc/X11/XF86config. and changed driver in device section to nvidia 8) insmod agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1 9) insmod NVdriver 10) xinit -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 Important things to note, sax2 ran once, but failed afterwards. It didnt know what the card was. XFree86 -configure doesnt work either. So it was relatively simple except i wouldnt have known to try the parameter on insmod agpgart. ( Id never heard of agpgart until this week ). Also im not sure my 3d stuff is working yet. but I'll wait for 4.02 now. This better work on my next reboot dids www.diddyland.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq