Bruce wrote:
Dear SuSE,
This issue IS significant for us as we use both SuSE 6.4 Intel and PPC versions and have attempted to create our own kernels without success. Given that the kernel is supposed to be reasonably Open, is it possible to find the usual adjustments that SuSE makes so we can apply them after or in due process of creating a new kernel.
Creating a kernel from (6.4) lx_linux 2.2.14 + patches to 2.2.16 for the PPC doesn't produce a functional kernel so there is something else we have to do.
OF COURSE this will fail. Those patches have been created against a standard kernel! What about "openness" of SuSE? If you read the kernel list you'd find ALL the patches we use there. Many are from us, many are from other people. Other companies with kernel knowhow (because they employ hackers), VA for example, also patch the standard kernel heavily. The last time I checked a Red Hat kernel their patch was 4 MB. Ever looked on CD1 into unsorted/patches? We deliver EVERY SINGLE source that's GPL. We do not deliver teh source rpm for the lx_suse.rpm package, because it is so big and all you really need are the patches. You can make an "official" (whatever that means) kernel from the lx_suse kernel by reverse-applying these patches, as you should know if you create your own kernels.
Applying the 2.2.15 and 2.2.16 patches to lx_suse (both Intel and PPC) fails completely.
See above, of course it does, and that's perfectly all right.
Yes the 2.2.16 kernel for the PPC works, but we have no idea whats inside them.
Ok, so now I told you the location of the patches - that you really could have found yourself, or do you think we keep our kernel hackers work in the safe?
We for example don't want to have anything to do with SCSI,IPX,ARCNET,Token Rings,Sound,Video and that stuff - this is an industrial and business environment and we need performance. We DO need more advanced options at the IP Network stage and Appletalk options which we CAN get with Redhat.
This is a joke, right? Not that I doubt that the Red Hat kernel is ok, they've got kernel knowhow after all, but I doubt your statement.
Likewise,if SuSE is modifing memory management facilities, then we need to know.
Would you please have a look at the Red Hat or VA patches to a standard kernel?! If you'd just subscribe to the kernel list you'd get to know EVERYTHING our hackers and others do. How more open can it get? -- Michael Hasenstein http://www.suse.de/~mha/ SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg (Germany) SuSE Inc., Oakland, California (US) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq