Hi, ** Yeh any way of getting it to work without to much messing ** around is cool !!. Very true. Problem is that life's like that. Linux has a lot to learn from the BSD ports system though. On (Open) BSD, I've only ever had a failed package build on one thing and that was a cock up by the portmaster (which was fixed). ** Unfortunately I used the Gnome installer which installed ** in less than 30 secs. the cd hadn't even moved in the drive.... ** much later after hacking the script to use the cd path ** correctly. it installed ok I've seen that before. The installer is overly bloatware considering a simple sh script'd do the job adequately. I decided to investigate the manual way of doing things which worked nicely. ** but I was getting errors starting the executable. ( This ** tends to put me off installing stuff a lot under Linux) What sort of errors? I've seen it fall over quite badly a lot on AMD hardware and some duff RAM I had a couple of months back. Ut is fussy on overclocked hardware too for some reason -- it wouldn't work at all on my dual-celery 400 (running at 500Mhz BTW). Mind you, NT SP6 fell over on that quite a bit. HtH ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Smith, IS Department [chris.smith@raytheon.co.uk] Raytheon Systems Limited +44 (0) 1279 407 103 ------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq