More Rant about permission in NT (there's no such thing in windows): Recently at my school some dumba$$ changed the swap file setting in NT to 0 and 3 machines bombed out. The reason it's possible because Real player needs administrative rights and one of the courses uses exclusively real player (CCNA). There's also experiences where files were deleted by someone else using the computer, even the file are assigned permission. In Linux at home I have no such problem, Real player runs the same on root or myself unpriviledged. There's no way for me to change the swapfile, even if somehow it did, I would have enable a swap file in about three commands. As to file to file permission, I accidentally set the umask of a directory wrong, and my friends were unable to even enter the folders! Point is, linux is not exactly ready for the windummies out there, but everything else are so much better there's no other system (well maybe unix) like it. Calyth -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/