Hi, ** I agree totally with this thread: Microsoft's OS is not ready for ** prime time. Like I prattled on before, in my office of 25 Windows ** users, only four could install the OS. What - you think that is bad. I get lumbered into helping with things NT at work due to most of the poxy staff being off with stress problems (due to Windows NT!). We also have 800 windows based boxes (mostly 98 but moving to NT). Here's a few nasty ones to make you cringe:- 1/ Ever tried installing Small Business Server? 3 CD's of patches for Windows NT that sequentially install themselves. Installation time: 3 hours. Then it randomly dials out to the Internet to update itself without informing you and/or being able to control it. 2/ mscvrt.dll. Hmm very nasty. Ever tried reinstalling a later version of this? I had to write an InstallSheild program and the Inevitable Visual C++ hello world program and insert the DLL into the InstallSheild installation script. Time: 4 hours (included battling with licensing problems and learning Visual C++ basics!!!). Technical details on request :-) 3/ IE5. Suddenly, one solemn day, out IIS server started dishing out something odd which breaks IE5 permanently. It stops cookies being used and prompty commits suicide at the client end on access to a certain _plain_html_ document which validates to HTML4.0 standard from www.w3.org. 4/ The CAD problems. Hmm incompatible version of opengl32.dll....New video cards had to be purchased so that NT could understand them (in 2D as well) with SP6a (These are Matrox G400s which work perfectly with everything else except 6a!!!). They were replaced with 3DLabs Oxygen GVX1s!!! ( £350 more a workstation). 5/ Network load. With no users doing anything and not being logged in or the hub being connected to the router, the CAD segment's hub's collision light flashes continuosly. 6/ Office Paperclip bastard - Just annoys me :={ 7/ The TCO of NT is higher because the employee health insurance goes up after using NT. ** I agree totally with this thread: Microsoft's OS is not ready for ** prime time. I copied this from the top because you are the most right person on the planet :-) I think between Linux (especially SuSE) on the server and desktop, and OpenBSD for the security and network grunt, that they should rightfully get the market instead of Microsoft's lousy stunts. Non serious bit - well maybe not:- If someone gave me a 'Large Nuclear Weapon' I'd quite happily take it to Redmond and play the funeral march on a banjo (just to make their death painful and slow) then set it off :-) I am totally opposed to anything made by Microsoft as it will probably kill me like it has done to so many other companies and support staff. Chris. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/