Okay, I don't know about the "average" Windows user you're used to dealing
with, but I wouldn't trust the average Windows user that I know to install
any OS. Period. Heck, most of the people I work with (Help Desk) I wouldn't
trust to install an OS. The "First" link in the chain for most Windows
users is the person that sold them the PC, or the little instruction sheet
they got to tell them where to connect the power cable. The "First" link in
the chain for a Windows user that wants to move to Linux is knowledge. And
if they have the knowledge that leads to a decision to switch OSs, then
they have everything they need. (Sure, it might take a lot of time. But
they already have the prerequisite thirst for understanding to accomplish
the task.)
Yes, I think that the Linux community should develop easier install
routines (although I think there are more important aspects of Linux
usability that need to be addressed). But to tell you the truth, it's
gotten 110% better in a very short time. (Faster than Microsoft, or just
about any other large software company that develops and sells operating
systems, could've done the same thing) Even since I did my first install
(RedHat 5.2) it's gotten better. I think that anyone developing an
installer would be remiss if they didn't look at what their peers were
doing. I'm not familiar with the drax and Lothar programs, but if they're
Open Source, I'm sure that whomever is responsible for YaST2 has looked at
those programs or others similar to them. It would be less than optimal and
against the hacker ethic to recreate the wheel that someone else has
already perfected. And I myself have faith that the SuSE team has looked at
the available options and made what they feel is the best desicion for the
distro. And to tell you the truth, I don't base my choice of distros on the
installation routine anymore. I don't particularily enjoy installing
operating systems anymore. Kind of a waste of time when you have one that
works.
From: "m thompso"
From: Ben Rosenberg
Reply-To: ben@whack.org CC: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] YAST2 rocks! /LenZ Rant/ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:16:28 -0600 Hello all,
I would second this..wait for 6.4. I use to think that Linux was a big waste of time before I discovered SuSE. I was a staunch freeBSD/Solaris advocate, but I have been running SuSE since 5.0 along with my freeBSD box and now my Sun U10. I do know this, if SuSE somehow magically went out of business and they were not producing a Linux distr. I would reformat this box and it would be a Solaris X86 box.
Give these guys a break, they do damn good work..it may not be on installers or anything as low on my list as this, but their kernel work and XFree work alone merits respect.
just my 0.02
BTW .. is icewm 1.02 gonna make it into 6.4 ;D
Lenz Grimmer wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, m thompso wrote:
Correction: "MOST" of YaST2 rocks
I'm still disappointed that YaST2 does not allow me to install SuSE 6.3 to non-adjacent partitions. To install to non-adjacent partitions, I must still use YaST1. Mandrake 7.0-2 uses a top-notch graphical installer called drakx. SuSE would be wise to incorporate drakx into the next release of SuSE Linux.
<PERSONAL RANT> Well, since distributions nowadays only seem to be judged by it's installation utility, how should we set ourself apart by reusing
someone
else's tool?
We have added a lot of features in YaST2 for SuSE Linux 6.4.
There will be a more flexible partitioning dialogue, which will also allow you to use ReiserFS partitions and multiple disks (no LVM yet, you still need to fall back to YaST1 for Logical Volumes). In addition to that, there is a more flexible package selection and the configuration of Sound cards, printers, Internet connection with Modem/ISDN and Network configuration.
-- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org SuSE Linux 6.3 (2.2.14) ICQ UIN:49268667 ------------------------------------------------------------ " Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom " --Gen. George Patton
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