well i got alot of good advise from all of you, so much advise taht it took me a few days to try all of it. thanks all the bad news is none of it worked. ,I think however that the problem is not the advice but my system.. as far as I can tell I have a irq conflict that I can not solve. both my soundblaster live and my 3com network card are trying to use irq 10.. I dont get it cause I turned off the pnp in the bios. I have allso installed dhcpcd-0_70-2i386.rpm as the dhcpcd native to suse does not work for cable modems without a static ip.. did I say that correctly? and is this true? i have done a pnpdump to set up my network card and uncommented the lines I need in isapnp.conf file. in this file I set the irq to 10 and the address to 0x0210. but for some reason its as though something is overriding this.. cause its trying to use irq 10 and address 0x0300 (not ure about the address as im at work but I know its not what i told it to use in the isapnp.conf) the isapnp.conf file in in my /etc dir and should be read at boot? isnt this the correct place for this file? if so why is it being overriden? and how could this happen? I mean where else would my network card be getting its irq and address from? one other thing that is wired is that when I do a ifconfig eth0, I get what looks to be a normal response. then I run dhclient eth0, I get SIOCSIFFLAGS Resource temporarily unavailable is this the IRQ conflict? if so I need help to figure out why? thanks RonM -- Ron Morgan jr. Cyrix Dallas Texas //If you remain calm, You dont know all the facts! // ronm@cyrix.com gojoe@home.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/