On 7/27/2010 6:55 PM, Matthew Ehle wrote:
"Carlos E. R."
7/27/2010 4:36 PM >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-28 00:32, Matthew Ehle wrote:
Hello,
As Carlos pointed out, I had accidentally hijacked an earlier thread, so I am starting this new one up. Here is the original message:
I have implemented Google Custom Search on enstage.opensuse.org, and I am personally very happy with the results. To try it out, you can visit http://enstage.opensuse.org/Portal:GoogleSearch and try searching on anything you want. It is about a thousand times better than what we have, and with the better relevance ranking, namespace searching is no longer an issue.
It times out without loading. Is there some problem? It sounds like you're not on the Novell network. The staging site is firewalled, so you have to either be on a Novell site or VPN'ed in to be able to access staging sites. I know, it's pretty annoying. I'm going to try to do something about it, but for now, we'll just have to work around it.
OK. Then please type in "lxc" into the new search. Does a copy of old-en.opensuse.org/LXC come up? I can't check this myself. I'm not saying I have any reason to believe that page has been transferred to anywhere in the new wiki. It may not exist or it may simply be unfindable. It was probably supposed to be my job to move it, which I have not done. If so, well sorry I already have a more than full time job I had to steal way too much time from just to get that doc written (and be sure everything was sound accurate, safe, tested umpteen times, missing scripts written and supplied in an rpm package created and maintained in an obs repo, etc... followed by subsequent updates, organizational improvements, clarification and fluff removal, etc...). And now, not very long after the effort to create it, it gets removed, eaten, down a black hole. Effort wasted. After going through that process of being burned, can you blame me for being loathe to invest even more time in this wiki? I will spend a lot of time and effort on documentation and reference, for free, because I know how important it is. But not if it's going to be wasted this way. You may say, "Well yes it was supposed to be your job to move it and if you can't be bothered then why should we?". the problem is I did not reorganize the site and break all the links to content I didn't write. All this is doing is hurting opensuse on several levels and from several directions at once. Content from authors who are no longer actively maitaining what they wrote is simply gone. Maybe some of it is obsolete by now, maybe not, and maybe there is no such thing as obsolete knowledge, all loss is bad. I often specifically need reference for older systems and current docs are of no use. Content from still active authors may or may not be moved because people like me may simply abandon a black hole that eats content. Or some may move their existing docs but be a lot less willing to invest new time & effort. You can't say "We promise not to do break things again" after already having done so once. With so much stuff missing or unfindable, users are left with a paucity of help compared to what they can get elsewhere. So new users, or even old ones have incentive to leave. That's opensuse users, not just wiki users. And prospective not-yet users reading the countless existing external articles on countless topics, "Here's the Ubuntu example/package/info, Here's the RedHat example/package/info, Here's the opensuse [nothing, broken link]." repeated all over the place... They just see, hmm opensuse really allows all there links to be broken? Not exactly the kind of outfit I want to deal with. IT guys who aren't really Linux guys reading manuals in back rooms "This is stupid, the manual says go here and it doesn't even exist. What garbage... Just the excuse I needed to convince the customer to scrap this box and I'll put a new Windows box in." What a disaster... We site admin 101 do not break links to reference material. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org