Hello, Having had the need of some applications recently to discover they don't work well, I feeled it necessary to test them more and more early :-), so I decided to involve me a bit more in testing :-)). This list don't seems to be very active and I'm completely disliking IRC, so this post. 1) testing early It don't seems to be easy to test factory now, so I wrote a page explaining how I could. I'm completely lost with the new wiki, so I wrote this on my own one, here: http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.TestingOpenSUSEearly#sDoc.TestingOpenS... 2) I have an account on testopia, but don't see really how I can use it. For now it seems to me that it's mainly done for developper asking for help for they own product, when what I try do do is structured testing around a subject. My goal right now is to test multimedia pattern contents (scpecially the ones about video editing at large) and what I plan to do in the next weeks is: * identify the main multimedia applications. On the long term the goal is to have a set of very well tested applications and others set in a "second choice" list (on subjects where there are many identical applications, like dvd authoring) * test all of them *-do they install *-do they run (simply load and be able to start some work) *- choose one and try to use it on real use, try to crash them (usually pretty easy) and report for bug fixing, including upstream this is not as easy as it seems, because many if not all of them rely also on packman, and bugfixing between opensuse and packman is tedious. Gladfully, several opensuse developpers joined also packman, this makes things easier (with some funny messages like "closed as invalid because it's a packman bug, but I fixed it in packman" :-))) any comment appreciated :-) jdd NB: side note: all this began because I wanted to make video demos for 11.4, looked for apps, find them buggy, report and finally think it's better to make this for 12.1 :-) -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.youtube.com/user/jdddodinorg http://jdd.blip.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-testing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-testing+help@opensuse.org