This huge reboot/shutdown delay is highly annoying. When shutdown needs to happen, it needs to happen now, not at the whim of systemd. I haven't figured out what triggers it, but it seems like maybe something that happens during zypper dup related to KDM(3 or 4) or Plasma5. It doesn't always happen. Last to happen here was on TW20190314 host big31 on first post-dup boot. What make ps -A produce " 983 ? 00:00:00 (sd-pam)"? What exactly is "User Manager"? Is this just happening to me? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-support+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-support+owner@opensuse.org