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Re: [opensuse-project] Non-Confidence Petition
On Fri, 2020-07-03 at 10:26 +0200, Carsten Hoyer wrote:
I should clarify my last sentence:

- Vote NO in regards to requesting a re-election of the Board.
- Vote YES to express confidence in our current Board.



The petition only has one option

"YES" to express no confidence in the Board

So the correct advice for anyone who shares your opinion (like myself)
would be to not sign the petition at all :)

Am 03.07.2020 um 08:20 schrieb Carsten Hoyer <hoyer@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

Dear all

Whilst I am not a member sadly and not allowed to vote, I am a
time user and I have some professional experience in governance,
management and legal questions. I would like to let you know, if
any of
you wish to consider a non-member opinion whilst voting, that I
respectfully disagree to the below.

The best for OpenSUSE would be to move on from the unprofessional
infighting and baseless accusations, to continue working with the
professional board we already have and focus on actual project
questions and challenges that lie ahead.

It should be clear for everyone that the Board is not and shouldn't
a closed shop where individuals can only follow their personal
it is a governance body, where some basic governance skills and
abilities are required, as well as a professional manner. Given the
style and content of messages and communication of a small number
ex-members of the Board, who whish to topple this current Board,
members are not suitable for a governance position and should never
have been a Board member in the first place. The non-confidence
seems to serve solely their own, personal agenda without any
consideration that it may further damage the OpenSUSE project.

Please all keep in mind that we are not isolated - the outside
world is
following the trials and tribulations within the project and the
fallout of continued infighting may be severe.

OpenSUSE will be stuck in the past if this continues, lose members
users, or, at least, not be able to efficiently manage the future
challenges and to grow further.

Please vote "NO" at the non-confidence petition.

With kind regards

Carsten Hoyer

Am Freitag, den 03.07.2020, 00:15 +0200 schrieb Christian Boltz:

Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2020, 09:47:18 CEST schrieb Stefan
(slightly OT, just mentioning it for people concerned...)

Exactly for the reason you pointed out, I mentioned in my first
to Per that there's also the option to contact the election
directly if someone doesn't want / dare to ask on the public ML
whatever reason.

Am 01.07.20 um 23:37 schrieb Christian Boltz:
Am Dienstag, 30. Juni 2020, 14:54:31 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
It worked with Chromium.

(Firefox on Tumbleweed worked fine for me. I use some ad and

Note that you both have revealed your voting to the world now

Yes, I'm fully aware of that. [1]
So what? ;-)

It should be obvious that the board's actions since the last
gave more than enough reasons to sign the non-confidence
Even if you read only half of the mails I had to write on this ML
this time, my opinion on this should be *very* clear.

I guess everybody has read Pierre's call for the No-Confidence
which sums up what happened until then.

To make things even worse, there have been additional
spoken) questionable mails by some board members with the
damage the kicked-out board member even more.

I'm still sure that resigning from the board in protest was the
thing to do [2] - and (sadly) the additional questionable mails
confirmed my decision more than once.

So even if I hadn't written the previous mail, my voting would be
to guess ;-)

As sad as it is - IMHO a full re-election with a clean restart
the best for openSUSE.


Christian Boltz

[1] And yes, I know that it's also possible to submit a blank
even if I didn't do that - thanks to the election officials
allowing this so that "$person submitted a vote" does not
necessarily mean "$person voted against the board".

[2] Since then, I can (literally!) sleep better again

In asynchron-verteilten Umgebungen mußt Du gegen jede einzelne
Deiner Datenbankvorlesung verstoßen. [Kris Köhntopp]

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