On 07/01/16 00:07, Richard Brown wrote:
On 06/01/16 22:07, Per Jessen wrote:
Judging by https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_meeting, the board stopped meeting in March last year, and no minutes were posted from that last irc meeting. Apparently a face-to-face meeting took place on March 28 & 29, but I see no minutes nor a report from that either.
In May 2015, Bruno Friedmann then quietly announced:
"To be precise, the meeting on irc, is no more automatic. It's on demand when the need and the actors are there."
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-05/msg00470.html
Really, no board meetings since March last year? There must have been a meeting in order to pass a motion to ban Carlos from all opensuse lists and minutes of this meeting kept recording the validity of this decision.
If there was no such meeting then Carlos' ban is invalid, the board members asked to explain their actions and Carlos' participation in all opensuse fora immediately re-instated. The Boards actions regarding moderation of the mailinglists were in
On 6 January 2016 at 12:33, Basil Chupin
wrote: direct response to direct requests to board@opensuse.org by various community members In such cases it would be inappropriate to delay a response to such an issue for upto 2 weeks,
According to what, or whose, criterion?
so the Board doesn't wait for it's regular Board meeting and discusses and decides via email
Board meetings are typically where non-urgent 'day to day' type stuff is discussed (eg. openSUSE conference planning and preparation, TSP status, Release status) and where broader ongoing topics may be discussed (general direction of the Project, trends in community concerns mailed to board@opensuse.org, so on and so forth)
Or to put it another way
The Board discusses and reacts to all issues raised to board@opensuse.org as fast as it can, and does not wait until the next Board meeting to start discussing or acting on such emails.
Richard, you are making all this up as you go along, aren't you? The fact is that you are the current chair of a board which has no set of *rules* governing its behaviour or its responsibilities to the openSUSE users and the "Community" -- that is, apart from the vague, open-ended, motherhood statements mentioned in- https://en.opensuse.org/Board If what the board did was serious stuff and everybody on the board took their positions seriously, and did not publish such photos with tongues hanging out like some drunken person celebrating the New Year in Manchester or made comments about their CVs such as those shown in https://en.opensuse.org/Board, then you would know that normally there is always a provision in the duties and responsibilities of a board (one such responsibility is called "natural justice" -- don't know about? then look it up, and apply it to Carlos' case) which do permit actions to be approved and taken in "an emergency", which you claim appears to be so in Carlos' case, but which then MUST be raised and re-approved by the board at its next meeting and Minuted as the decision of the board with a full disclosure of who moved the motion and seconded it and voted for and against the motion/proposal. So what you state is simply ****, or crap for those who don't like naughty type words. Am I correct in stating that Carlos was banned in around the middle of November 2015? If so, you mean to tell me that the board has had no chance to meet for ANY reason, be it small or major, since at least that time? If not, why not? What DOES the board do -- apart from banning people at your request because you assumed that you were being insulted? You may find my questioning rather severe but rest assured that I am not attacking anyone personally but simply questioning how things work and what the culture of the board may be in the future. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.9 & kernel 4.3.3-6 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org