Or bring up the good old 'C vs C++' wars or similar and make everyone
leave; honestly, being Python a key technology in the core of
openSUSE, I find sad that proposals like this one aren't considered
seriously.
Python isn't Fortran or Cobol... Personally while I have no interest
in Ruby and others, I do have a lot of interest in Python... So I hope
people can let this one slip in...
NM
2012/9/19 Rajko
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:33:48 +0200 Alex Naumov
wrote: Look at connect.opensuse.org: Ruby group - ... Actually that's no problem to use another MLs for me (and for another, I guess), but the question is... do we want to leave it as is, or maybe we can try to change it?
In particular case of a new ML for one programming language, what other tried to say is that congregating all developers to one list can only help openSUSE without much difference for developers.
Imagine situation that we non-developers need program to solve some problem around openSUSE, where do we go? Right now I don't have an answer. The only help we can get is from SUSE employees when they have time. In practice that means to fix web infrastructure problems, and usually just what must be done. Convenience scripts to parse wikies and update stuff that can be done automatically are just dreams, even when whole work would be to adapt some existing Wikipedia script.
I know about opensuse-programming http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-programming/ but 2 messages in 2012-09 and nothing better in other.
Nothing better are other 2 programming related lists: http://lists.opensuse.org/stats/opensuse-java/opensuse-java.html about 50 subscribers http://lists.opensuse.org/stats/opensuse-ruby/opensuse-ruby.html about 50 subscribers http://lists.opensuse.org/stats/opensuse-programming/opensuse-programming.ht... about 600 subscribers http://lists.opensuse.org/stats/opensuse-programming-de/opensuse-programming... about 500 subscribers
Creating a list is not a big deal from organizational effort perspective, but: * having dead lists is a problem from marketing point of view * it often artificially splits community resources, making them hidden from people that are not subscribed. * experience with factory-xyz lists and few other just confirms that list alone doesn't change activity.
For instance opensuse-programming and opensuse-programming-de and the other 2 lists will be better off if joined. Current split by language, spoken or programming, is hard to defend: * Most of the programmers have enough English language skills to be able to participate in discussions, if public is not particular about grammar and spelling. * Those that don't can use whatever their native language is, and hope to get answer. * The same is for programming language specific lists, where one can skip reading language specific posts, but can take part in general discussion how to solve some problem. * This will save German speaking developers one mail list subscription, * and it will bring community resources together.
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