On Viernes, 17 de febrero de 2012 17:40:52 Bryen M Yunashko escribió:
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 00:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Le 17/02/2012 22:15, Jim Henderson a écrit :
It also is important, though, for the definition of 'activity' to be flexible enough to allow things to be added that hadn't been previously thought of.
the problem are of two kind:
* quantity. What is a great enough contribution? This can be approached, and the present system where we need four +1 makes a average by multiplying the people giving advice
As far as I watch we are not able to quantify other people contributions except by putting a counter for each task achieved (just on the web). Sadly, It almost no possible way to quantify contributions outside the project's web (english version).
* quality. It's quite easy to check *web* contributions, but for example I know the case of a friend of mine that spend his money for 10 years now representing SuSE then openSUSE on the meetings with lot of laptops and goodies and have seen his membership refused because he do not write easily and so is not web visible.
the second part is the most problematic
This is quite problematic. If you are the only one on a region promoting the project and having language barrier disregards you are requesting membership or member.
jdd
When I used to review membership applications, we encountered this problem occassionally where our usual places to look showed nothing. When that happened, we would try to find people who knew this person and ask for some verification. This most often happened for non-English-speaking people who worked with openSUSE but not visible in our usual places.
Other projects include in application forms an option to list someone who can vouch for you. We should include that option as well. In this case, I would suggest your friend to re-apply and mention you as a reference so the membership committee has a clue where to verify information.
This is not easy in all cases. There is some people region isolated enough. We do not know them or having an actual mechanism to verify how much they are doing. (including language barriers) . Should the community ignore them?
However, I fear we are slipping again in this overall thread. The thread's intent isn't about defining contributions. If we feel the current definition of contributor is questionable, we should create a new thread focused directly on that substance. This thread is about resolving what to do about members who were already identified and approved as contributors but no longer participate in any visible way for an extended period of time.
I would not like to hijack this thread just making you aware of this scenario.
These are two separate, but valid, issues and should be given their own threads so things don't become convoluted in discussion.
Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project
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