Le 06/12/2011 12:49, Kostas Koudaras a écrit :
Is there any reason to see that the openSUSE trademarks are in danger now that we don't have a Foundation?
certainly not, in the contrary attribution of the trademark must not be done now. It's probably the very last step for a foundation. We have to get the strenght to protect the trademark and I think it's probably best to have convention from a to be foundation and the trademark owner to have the right of use than to have the full property.
Didn't people from SUSE or Atachmate gave us everything we asked and more in some cases?
no. It's not. SUSE and Attachmate give us many things, but only what they want when they want and with no plan. The lack of planning is the worst part, not the amount. We can do with what we receive, but having to ask for anything and wait for an answer is not what make good work done. But, by the way, this can be done without a foundation (see below).
Did they denied us anything or did we took any decision as a community and they, in any way stopped us or tried too?
presently nobody knows really how a decision is done. For technical decisions, it's more the matter of the technical staff, but I see little discussion. Should we use systemd as default was not really discussed. The only real discussion I remember was the choice of Kde by default. for non technical decision, like marketting, mostly it's Jos decision, but with little planning ahead. This also do not really need a foundation. So may be a practical solution could be the following (all have to be discussed at large, of course): * redefine the board goals. Each board member should have a dedicated task or range of competence (think as "government minister"), including a treasurer in charge of some money. Nothnig should be decides without the board acceptation. * let each board member group around him some help as needed, including may be some paid for work (secretary, lawyer...?) - could be possible to give some SUSE employee hours * let the board make some planning. I would like to know how many dvd are available, when, what is the budget for reimbursing travels, and many more (not only financial) In fact, the board can work like if he was the foundation board, of course under the sponsor supervision. so we could begin to setup a foundation structure without the hassle of building a foundation. We need only a bit of trust from the sponsor (and I think we deserve it). I speak about the board, because it's the only elected strucure we have, it's sufficiently controlled by the sponsor to be safe and deserve sufficient trust from the contributors of course we could use the hole gap between 12.1 and12.2 to discuss all of this. No hurry, but if discussion is public anybody will be glad to participate. jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org