On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:58:00 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 19:20:55 Per Jessen wrote:
Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 14:04:57 Per Jessen wrote:
Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 09:08:20 Per Jessen wrote:
Alberto Passalacqua wrote: > Hi,
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Sorry, that's apparently how the openSUSE community works - if we're not happy with it, it's up to us to change it. And I don't think it's better done by not discussing changes at all.
I'm sure that is not what Alberto meant.
I wonder what the value of this meta-discussion is. I don't see how we have to ask for discussion?
The maintainers of systemd and the maintainers of sysvinit want to have systemd. That's quite clear. Nobody has stepped up with an alternative proposal and offered to do better. So the decision has been made implicitly by those who do the work. That is how a FOSS community works.
Every now and then I see references to "Product Management" - don't they have a say?
Not over openSUSE, no.
Okay, I was not aware we had progressed so far. Can I quote you?
Sure. I'm being a bit black and white here, AJ (who is Product Manager for openSUSE) probably could influence what SUSE employees want. But they can't
Nit-picking: I'm inside the SUSE Product Management team responsible for openSUSE - but not a classical product manager. I'm more of a bridge. And I'm also heavily involved with the distribution, e.g. just updated glibc from 2.11 to 2.13...
dicatate what happens in openSUSE other than by doing the work - which puts them on equal foot with others doing work. And obviously way above people who just talk and talk (but that's how it should be, right?).
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