On 2011-01-21 16:32:34 (-0000), Administrator
If such a list have existed, we could have discussed the present case completely, without the risk for anybody to have the net unvail the names and the facts. The board could have explained all the situation.
I totally agree with the idea of a members only list,that way we can make discussions and to be sure that the one answering the question or participate in a conversation truly and proven wants the same as everyone else,the evolution of the openSUSE Community.
Having a "members only list" is something we thought about already on a few occasions, but certainly not for this purpose, and it would need to be world-readable. Jean-Daniel, basically, you're saying that you don't trust any of the people who are on the current openSUSE board nor the few other persons who signed the OP on the thread. If you trust at least a few of the people who's names were at the bottom of that mail, then this discussion is moot. Everything else can be read in that mail.
I think you're just trying to substitute one version of secrecy for another.
Spot on. It is mind-boggling that the same people who want transparency on an issue that requires respecting people's privacy are now rooting for a private mailing-list (that includes them). I hope a few people can take a (mental) step back and see the irony here. Is it about having everything public (as in "transparent", including things that could deeply affect the privacy and reputation of someone, for the same of "transparency"?), or is it about you being part of such a "secret" ?
You are, at least, acknowledging that some things require confidentiality / secrecy. The question is then what things and who will be admitted to "the secret". You are requesting that you be in the inside group and creating a much larger group of secrets.
Exactly.
Neither is necessary. There is a board to whom we have delegated all these messy and difficult decisions (and I'm sure it was both messy and difficult). You trust the board or you don't. If you don't, elect a new board and stand for election yourself.
Couldn't agree more, thank you for a bit of common sense in this mess.
p.s. I'm not a member as I can't guarantee to devote enough of my time to OS to justify my membership of this select group. Such a request would downvalue the people who can and do. Membership is a privilege and an acknowledgement of status from your peers.
Spot on, again.
cheers
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-o) Pascal Bleser