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[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse] 11.0 Closing Desktop Summary and 11.3 Opportunities
  • From: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:59:02 -0400
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I've cc'ed this to opensuse-project.

Seems like an email they should see.


On 7/10/10, David C. Rankin <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

11.0 Desktop Summary

All-in-all, kde3 (except for the kde4 induced gtk issue, missing menu and
control panel issues on x86_64) finished life in 11.0 in phenomenal shape.
was truly enjoyable to use. Gnome finished in fantastic shape even for
at an ancient 2.2.0 release point.

E16 was perfect. E17 was near perfect. Credit for the fantastic shape of
enlightenment desktops goes to Dmitry Serpokryl for his great work there.

WindowMaker, blackbox, fluxbox, openbox and lxde were all in great shape
that many of the desktop components needed to be found and installed from
due to declining interest from the build service maintainers.

IceWM, twm and fvwm2 were in good working order as well.

XFCE was probably the largest disappointment due to newer packages being
available and then pulled from the repos during the last 2 months of support
leaving a mess for that desktop at 11.0 EOL.

Unfortunately, the desktop selection in all versions of openSuSE since 11.0
narrowed significantly. Enlightenment remains a bright point due to Dmitry's
continued hard work. Gnome is still in good shape in 11.2 and to SuSE's
KDE3 being continued was in my opinion was probably one of the smartest
decisions I have seen made in the past 2 years. No matter how you slice it,
is still just a mess of differing beta ideas being shoved together in hope
something usable springs forward on its own. It's like a desktop with
palsy or Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and evidently is shares the same

11.3 Opportunities

Hopefully the opensuse devs will continue to put effort into keeping a good
desktop selection available for 11.3. I would have gladly transitioned to
if the normal simple things worked reliably, but it is hit and miss. 160+
reports opened and counting.

Take it to heart there are many more good desktop choices out there besides
that are stable and efficient right now. If 1% of the effort currently being
spent by opensuse on kde4 was committed to packaging these desktops for
then 11.3 could be just as solid a release as 11.0 was from a desktop
-- and hopefully it will be.

We shall see what the future holds.

[ ...for additional consideration ]

The benefit to opensuse from moving to a rolling-release model and ditching
waste/duplication of effort in maintaining 3 release sets of everything is
something worth seriously considering... Soon resources will be divided
11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 when resources should be singularly focused on opensuse
think about it... From what I've seen, that model produces the best linux
distribution for the least amount of resources required and the best user
experience by eliminating the forced migration from release to release.

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