Hello,
On an other list, it was suggested that this list would be the best place
to have a discussion on how we as a community may work together to make
openSUSE the best and most stable dstribution.
Some things AJ suggested are...
"IMHO the things the items where most help by everybody is needed are:
* early testing with good bugreports in bugzilla.novell.com
* help in bug triage so that the engineers can work on real bugs
* fixing bugs
I agree with this, but I think we should look at things. The issues I see
with the 11.0 release is Wireless Network issues, KDE 4.0.X where from
what I see using 4.1.1 it would have been a lot better to have had it. I
do not want a KDE discussion! I find the new management stack greatly
improved, although bug reporting is a bit hard given, I have not found a
way to explain being un-able give a way to explain that with the GUI
everything runs together and you can not make choices. Command line and
zypper allow it to be done, but yast2 was impossible.
Earlier testing would have helped a lot, with bug reports. But I think a
good discussion on what we as a community can/should do could be very
benefical to the project. What ideas to others have. I would like a
constructive discussion is possible. If we want to express something bad
please give a suggestion on what could have been done.
My points about the things I have heard/seen could have been resolved by
better testing. I rarely use wireless so I am dependent on other to test
this area. I am currently using KDE 4.1.1 to generate bug reports to
hopefully get them fixed before the 11.1 release.
This maybe could extend to SLES or SLED. I have problems with SLED
because it does not currently support newer hardware. I am sure things
are in the works to fix this situation, but maybe the next release of
these products is what is really needed. So please what can we as a
community do to get things going.
Thanks for your time an consideration.
--
Boyd Gerber