On 2/21/20 1:34 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 2/21/20 12:56 PM, Adam Majer wrote:
On 2/21/20 11:18 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote:
If that's your goal, I can only recommend (pun intended) to avoid the word bloat. bloat is a very negative word ("unwarranted or excessive growth or enlargement") that does not match to man pages for many, many people.
off-topic, but this is not a very negative word. It's very commonly used in software world
Aehm, our reading of that article seem to be very different - to read from it a positive meaning is beyond me.
Bloat, in isolation, is not a negative word. It's a word. When someone complains about bloated software, then you need to look at the context and not just attack the usage of the word - bloat. And to me that appeared to be the case. That was my point.
But let me quote from it to underline my point:
In his 2001 essay Strategy Letter IV: Bloatware and the 80/20 Myth,[3] Joel Spolsky argues that while 80% of the users > only use 20% of the features (a variant on the Pareto principle), each one uses different features. Thus, "lite" software editions turn out to be useless for most, as they miss the one or two special features that are present in the "bloated" version.
So whatever is "bloat" to Ludwig is essential to others.
Yes, it's very subjective. What I would consider bloat in a container is very important on a dev machine -- like, documentation ;) I've had a discussion with some people outside of openSUSE where they ship some JS files but they don't ship documentation. To them including documentation in a package would be bloat while to me it would be essential part of the package (or subpackage) and shipping JS without documentation makes shipping said JS quite useless in the first place. - Adam -- Adam Majer - amajer@suse.de SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH HRB 36809 (AG Nürnberg), GF: Felix Imendörffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-packaging+owner@opensuse.org