After installing the KDE upgrade as per http://www.suse.com/us/private/download/linuks/i386/update_for_8_0/index.htm... certain apps crash. For example find files the Crash Handler dump says: (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...0x40f05099 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #0 0x40f05099 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x40f7fbd8 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x40d9a072 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x405c1ade in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4 #4 0x40d97a74 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #5 <signal handler called> #6 0x407fb851 in QWidget::checkChildrenDnd () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #7 0x407fb96d in QWidget::setAcceptDrops () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #8 0x4099416e in QTextEdit::init () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #9 0x40993dbd in QTextEdit::QTextEdit () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #10 0x40415a30 in KAboutContainerBase::addLicensePage () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #11 0x40417e85 in KAboutDialog::addLicensePage () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #12 0x404583a1 in KAboutApplication::buildDialog () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #13 0x4045713a in KAboutApplication::KAboutApplication () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4 #14 0x08055ff3 in QScrollView::mouseReleaseEvent () #15 0x0805698f in QScrollView::mouseReleaseEvent () #16 0x40e7a9ed in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 Similar output is given when some apps like package manager encounter a problem such as a zero result for a search. But the worst of the problem is that Yast2 will not start. The sand clock revolves for a while .......then nothing. I first noticed that Yast2 was sick when I was going to reinstall webcam apps which would not load. i.e. the KDE 303 upgrade did something to the webcam (video) apps. Since Qt3 looks to be involved I installed it again and the option Qt3 stuff , to be sure. But it has not helped. Main apps such as StarOffice, QCad, Mozilla, Digikam are OK I will post this Suse-kde list. ....... After a quick look ....it seems that KDE 3.0.3 is now old. Any suggestions 1) to stop the crashes 2) regain "lost" apps like Yast2 -- John