Am Donnerstag, den 18.03.2010, 14:14 +0100 schrieb Sascha 'saigkill' Manns:
Am Donnerstag, 18. März 2010 12:00:44 wrote S.Kemter:
Hello,
As you may know, Weekly News Team is organizing biweekly regular IRC meetings on the #opensuse-newsletter channel on Freenode alternate Saturdays 14:30 UTC. However, we couldn't start the meetings for the last several months, because only few people were on the channel at that time - most of the time there were only Sascha and me. :-(
Thats a normal reaction of ppl. Because there are to often meetings with no important things. All what Sascha doing is copy and paste reminders - so maybe noone more is interested in his announcments. Because he does the same with other meetings. I understand, what you mean. I've seen that the Project-, Wiki and Marketing (at Zonkers time) used the same Text for reminders every time. So i've done this too.
I told u before what others do must not be right! C&P is never right ppl recognize this and think u are not very interested in this and working like a machine.
Meetings are important but they should be only when it is really needed!
I know most of the team members are too busy with their own works to attend the meetings and the time for the meeting may not be so convenient for everyone. If members were willing to join the meeting but happened to be busy at that time, that's not the problem. What I am afraid of is, lack of interest.
So, if you think you are a part of the Weekly News Team or want to be, I'd like to ask you:
1) Are you satisfied and having fun with editing/translating Weekly
News? In case the answer is not "Yes", please tell us the reason, if you can point out.
Make it sence to translate the OWN? No - For what reason should I read the german newsletter when there only links to english pages are in? There would be a easy solution for this problem. About that, i must thinking...
2) Do you have any good ideas, proposals and opinions to make Weekly
News much more interesting and attractive both for readers and editors/translators? "It would be interesting at least for me, if we ..." is considered a good answer. ;-)
Sure I have but I dont find it funny to get a answer "this was always so we dont change it" Then please feel free to write your Proposals. ATM we have made our Newsletter like that, what our Survey Reults are.
AJ has a long list with proposals only for the OWN I dont have time right now for post them all again here. And many from them I told u before!
3) Is the meeting time - 14:30 UTC alternate Saturdays - convenient for
you? Over 1 year has passed since we fixed the time, it might be good chance to reconsider the better time for meetings. Or, if you think we had better discuss topics on another channel such as mailinglist, forum, Google Wave, etc., which is unaffected by time, please tell us your recommendation.
There might be some opinions like "We should ..." and "We have to ...", but I would rather talk with you about how we can enjoy our work on Weekly News and provide more interesting and useful newsletters to our readers. To make things better and more interesting, we always need your help. ;-)
Thats a little bit a chicken-egg problem. I saw last time often calls for help from Sascha but I think that does not help. The call for Translators was good. I've recieved many Mails fro potencial new Translators. And we have an new Language for translating (Cs).
yeah so translate ^^ Maybe u should call for editors so that there is a thing for translate.
I think most ppl are not interested in the OWN because I can all things read on the planet fresher. The situation with the newsletter have to be changed first then u get new ppl because the thing the can work on is a good thing ;)
Change means not to put new sources in, like last time its the same like read the stories on the planet. Put in a new picture on the top makes it not better too.
The content is the key to get readers! That i think too. So just make proposals. To remove all Articles from the planet is not an good idea, because not every one read the planet regularly. We can't view just from our POV. Not every User read the planet, not every User read the Mailinglists and not every User reads forums.o.o So the Weekly News are for People who doesn't read this. So i publish the Announcement Mail in linux-community and linux.com. So ppl who doesn't read that, they can have an Overview what happens in the last week. And another Point is that through the OWN we place the Name "openSUSE" in the Mind of the readers regularly.
actually u take more time for spamming fb, twitter, planet, linux.com and and and that the OWN is out as do them br gnokii
Just my 2 cents :-)
-- Sincerely yours
Sascha Manns openSUSE Community & Support Agent openSUSE Marketing Team
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