PLONK Am Dienstag, den 23.06.2009, 01:45 +0530 schrieb Abhradip mukherjee:
@Fabrice
Freedom of choice is rather something that matters to me. Do you understand ? Sorry for my late reply :) Yes I understand and I thank you for your support to Freedom of Choice. But let me politely remind you that misinterpreting a philosophy is not a good thing. Freedom of choice is not applicable here because the choice is being made in between right and wrong.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy
wrote: With all due respect, let's emphasize "openSUSE" (you know, the product we're working on here) over GNU or Linux. Yes, we thank and pay respect (and in many cases help) the causes of GNU and Linux and the FSF (well, I could argue about that, but I won't) that have brought us to where we are today, but if we waste time talking about how we should reference what is to the user *an obscure computer terminology* (You, I and everyone here knows how important the Linux kernel and the GNU software is, but average users don't care),
I am not saying that you should go to a ice-cream shop owner and tell him why this is called GNU/Linux. You can just say "openSUSE is built upon the strong foundation of GNU/Linux system". To them it is no different from saying "openSUSE.....of Linux system". They wont understand any of them. But I am talking about the active community, the contributors, the ambassadors, the openSUSE project's official terminology. openSUSE project should show the support to Free Software Movement by officially calling it GNU/Linux. The ambassadors must refer to it as GNU/Linux in front of future developer meets to inspire them to develop free technology (A nice non-free project for openSUSE wont help free software movement. Opera might be a good example of such kind.). Community should call it GNU/Linux to remind themselves of their main goal to contribute to free software movement. Contributors must understand that they are contributing to a better future (instead of thinking that they are just developing a better product for sale).
then you're going back on the goal of all of us: to get openSUSE (and thus open source software) into the hands of as many people as possible.
Good logic, but who told you that people will run away from it if they hear it is GNU/Linux or a free software instead of just linux and open source software?
And let me repeat something I said earlier: the average user who is interested in trying something new other than Vista or XP or OS X *doesn't care about GNU or Linux or anything*.
That's something we must try to change. We should try to tell them that it is better for you to use free software if you want to be assured that your data and system is protected from any bad coding. In case of free software we can say that because we have access to original source code to check and a license that allows you to use it anyway you want for any period of time.
That's the "mysterious internals" of the computer, what they care about is that we give them a great experience both on the software and in the community.
So as I said changing the name wont affect the common user base negatively but can motivate developers more.
So let's worry more about that than about what we call GNU or Linux or something.
Lets worry about this community being misguided by underestimating common users and not letting developers and contributors be aware of GNU project and its importance.
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