At Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:03:54 +0800, Ray Chen wrote:
在 2011年10月26日下午8:48,Takashi Iwai
寫道: At Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:02:13 +0800, Ray Chen wrote:
在 2011年10月26日上午4:00,Takashi Iwai
寫道: At Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:48:19 +0800, Ray Chen wrote:
I've install openSUSE 12.1 rc1 DVD I found that both ibus and scim related packages were installed by default in Traditional Chinese environment If we want ibus as default input method frame scim should leave in DVD rather than install to the system If I want to use scim, I can install it from DVD or oss repo
My suggestion: We should set PRIORITY of ibus to 60 for openSUSE 12.1 (older version leave it as 40) and remove "Provides: locale(ja;zh;ko)" from scim-related packages, so they won't be install by default
Why? Just because SCIM is not used as default?
Yes, for an end user, if want to switch from ibus to scim, all he(she) can think about it is to install scim and see if this works. but if scim was installed, system still use ibus, he(she) would try to unstall ibus. But if we set ibus priority to 60, and not install scim by default, he(she) can easily switch to scim, maybe he will find that scim didn't fit his need, just remove scim, and it's OK to return to ibus.
In your argument, the case with multiple users is totally missing.
So if I want to try scim, I can just install scim (which PRIORITY is 50 (and 49 for scim-bridge)) and I don't have to do anything except a relogin
No, this doesn't make sense. The priority should indicate really the priority. If you do such a trick, the bug will return in the end later. If openSUSE have an input method switch system(like ubuntu and debian have a command : im-switch) that the priority should really indicate the priority. cause ibus fit the most general usage, so when no "user-define" input-method was set, ibus should load automatically. But openSUSE have not such tool, (yes, I know I can set "export INPUT_METHOD="your_choice"" in ~./profile to specify input-method I need)
Or change /etc/sysconfig/language.
we have to do something convenience for end user,that is: let user's newly installed input-method get the high priority (smaller number).
No, the installation order would be random at the first installation. (Imagine you install two IMs in the first installation.) OK, I understand
or, maybe we should develop a small ui tool,(or port im-switch to openSUSE) let users can easily switch their input-method.
This is the way to go. Hope this will come true soon
Hey, you can join! ;)
thanks,
Takashi
Another ibus issue is about the icons By now, these icons are not so good looking in both KDE4 and GNOME3, (I'm talking about icons in /usr/share/ibus-chewing/icons/ (or any other ibus-*/icons/) Hope openSUSE artwork team can help to improve
I think it's better to ask this in another ML. If we get a better icon and upstream it, it'll be certainly a good contribution from openSUSE. thanks, Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-m17n+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-m17n+owner@opensuse.org