Anyone else unable to run KDE3 session on TW? Anyone know how to find out why I see timeouts? I got this two days ago on host big31 and figured it out myself, but now on host p5bse I don't remember how and can't figure it out. :-( # /var/log/kdm.log tail X.Org X Server 1.19.6 Release Date: 2017-12-20 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX Current Operating System: Linux p5bse 4.16.12-2-default #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 25 18:40:19 UTC 2018 (39c7522) x86_64 Kernel command line: root=LABEL=ostwK4h50 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume vga=791 video=1024x768@60 video=1440x900@60 5 Build Date: 17 April 2018 12:00:00PM Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jun 16 22:39:57 2018 (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" KCrash: Application 'kdmgreet' crashing... Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly. (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. X.Org X Server 1.20.1 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX Current Operating System: Linux p5bse 4.17.14-1-default #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 9 12:44:26 UTC 2018 (dc49b43) x86_64 Kernel command line: root=LABEL=ostwK4h50 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume vga=791 video=1024x768@60 video=1440x900@60 5 Build Date: 07 August 2018 12:00:00PM Current version of pixman: 0.34.0 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Aug 26 14:13:41 2018 (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (II) modeset(0): Initializing kms color map for depth 24, 8 bpc. KCrash: Application 'kdmgreet' crashing... Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly. (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. # dmesg | grep splay Aug 26 14:13:23 p5bse kernel: [drm] Radeon Display Connectors Aug 26 14:13:38 p5bse systemd[1]: Starting X Display Manager... Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: /etc/vconsole.conf available Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: KEYMAP: us Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: Command: localectl set-keymap us Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: I: Using systemd /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map mapping Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse display-manager[922]: Starting service kdm..done Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Can't open PID file /var/run/displaymanager.pid (yet?) after start: No such file or directory Aug 26 14:13:47 p5bse kdm[978]: :0[978]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Start operation timed out. Terminating. Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: Failed to start X Display Manager. # systemctl status display-manager ● display-manager.service - X Display Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result: timeout) since Sun 2018-08-26 14:15:08 EDT; 14min ago Process: 922 ExecStart=/usr/lib/X11/display-manager start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Tasks: 1 (limit: 2377) CGroup: /system.slice/display-manager.service └─950 /opt/kde3/bin/kdm Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse display-manager[922]: Starting service kdm..done Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Can't open PID file /var/run/displaymanager.pid (yet?) after start: No such file or directory Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'AllowRootLogin' in section [X-*-Core] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'ShowUsers' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'SelectedUsers' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'UseTheme' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:47 p5bse kdm[978]: :0[978]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Start operation timed out. Terminating. Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: Failed to start X Display Manager. # journalctl -b | egrep 'kdm|splay' Aug 26 14:13:23 p5bse kernel: [drm] Radeon Display Connectors Aug 26 14:13:38 p5bse systemd[1]: Starting X Display Manager... Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: /etc/vconsole.conf available Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: KEYMAP: us Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: Command: localectl set-keymap us Aug 26 14:13:39 p5bse display-manager[922]: I: Using systemd /usr/share/systemd/kbd-model-map mapping Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse display-manager[922]: Starting service kdm..done Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Can't open PID file /var/run/displaymanager.pid (yet?) after start: No such file or directory Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'AllowRootLogin' in section [X-*-Core] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'ShowUsers' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'SelectedUsers' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:40 p5bse kdm_config[951]: Multiple occurrences of key 'UseTheme' in section [X-*-Greeter] of /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc Aug 26 14:13:47 p5bse kdm[978]: :0[978]: Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0 Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Start operation timed out. Terminating. Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: display-manager.service: Failed with result 'timeout'. Aug 26 14:15:08 p5bse systemd[1]: Failed to start X Display Manager. # systemd-analyze blame | head -n12 1min 30.036s display-manager.service 12.877s dev-sda14.device 12.209s lvm2-monitor.service 3.698s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-os131h50.service 3.295s kbdsettings.service 3.012s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-h50usrlcl.service 2.832s initrd-switch-root.service 2.241s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-h50home09.service 2.153s systemd-udevd.service 1.609s systemd-journal-flush.service 1.497s smb.service 1.487s wickedd-auto4.service I looked at big31's bash history and saw a clue in having done zypper -v in libvdpau_nouveau Mesa-dri-nouveau libXvMC_nouveau but that had NVidia gfx, and this has ATI Cedar. So I added Mesa-libva. Next startx try produced segfaults in drkonqi and kicker related to libfontconfig.so. Next I added libvdpau_va_gl1. Next startx produced a flash of Kicker, then back to black screen. Next, libvdpau_trace1, same result. Next, libvdpau_radeonsi, no help. Next, libvdpau_r600, still nada. Next, libXvMC1, no dice. Next, libXvMC_r600, nada. Next, libxcb-xf86dri0, nope. libXfont1, no. libxfonts, wants 8 deps including java, so skipped. libva-glx2, no. :~( All these failures are associated with another new ~/.config/gtkrc* file. Same PC has separate TW installation with Plasma that works as expected. :-p Ideas? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org