Ilya, I haven't used kmail in 11.4, but needed to configure it and did. However, sending mail in kmail or using kontact causes both to crash. The crash reports I received are as follows: I will probably need to load the debug packages to make them useful, but this is what I have so far: System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0x7f73786ce700 (LWP 3545)] [New Thread 0x7f7378ecf700 (LWP 3544)] [New Thread 0x7f73796d0700 (LWP 3539)] [New Thread 0x7f7379ed1700 (LWP 3538)] [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f73853e762c in DCOPObject::~DCOPObject (this=0x8da6a8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at dcop/dcopobject.cpp:81 #6 0x00007f7385d7c322 in KMComposeWin::~KMComposeWin() () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #7 0x00007f7385d7c389 in KMComposeWin::~KMComposeWin() () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #8 0x00007f7384cf4a4a in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #9 0x00007f7384d22933 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #10 0x00007f7384ca4185 in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x00007f7384ca4346 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x00007f73857ac4fe in KApplication::notify (this=0x7fff17304350, receiver=0x8da020, event=0xb002a0) at kdecore/kapplication.cpp:552 #13 0x00007f7384ca5322 in QApplication::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #14 0x00007f7384c5d7e5 in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned int) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #15 0x00007f7384cb5bf1 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #16 0x00007f7384cb5b42 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #17 0x0000000000402bbd in ?? () #18 0x00007f7384326bfd in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #19 0x0000000000402909 in ?? () #20 0x00007fff17304608 in ?? () #21 0x000000000000001c in ?? () #22 0x0000000000000007 in ?? () #23 0x00007fff17305557 in ?? () #24 0x00007fff1730555d in ?? () #25 0x00007fff17305566 in ?? () #26 0x00007fff1730556c in ?? () #27 0x00007fff17305572 in ?? () #28 0x00007fff17305578 in ?? () #29 0x00007fff17305582 in ?? () #30 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () and kontact: System configuration startup check disabled. [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0x7f9f2fcc9700 (LWP 1396)] [New Thread 0x7f9f304ca700 (LWP 1395)] [New Thread 0x7f9f30ccb700 (LWP 1394)] [New Thread 0x7f9f314cc700 (LWP 1393)] [KCrash handler] #5 0x00007f9f3e35562c in DCOPObject::~DCOPObject (this=0x100fa78, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at dcop/dcopobject.cpp:81 #6 0x00007f9f32461322 in KMComposeWin::~KMComposeWin() () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #7 0x00007f9f32461389 in KMComposeWin::~KMComposeWin() () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkmailprivate.so #8 0x00007f9f3dc62a4a in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #9 0x00007f9f3dc90933 in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #10 0x00007f9f3dc12185 in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #11 0x00007f9f3dc12346 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #12 0x00007f9f3e71a4fe in KApplication::notify (this=0x7ffffa066010, receiver=0x100f3f0, event=0xfe98e0) at kdecore/kapplication.cpp:552 #13 0x00007f9f3dc13322 in QApplication::sendPostedEvents(QObject*, int) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #14 0x00007f9f3dbcbb25 in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned int) () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #15 0x00007f9f3dc23bf1 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #16 0x00007f9f3dc23b42 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #17 0x000000000041983c in ?? () #18 0x00007f9f3d294bfd in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #19 0x00000000004192d9 in ?? () #20 0x00007ffffa0662e8 in ?? () #21 0x000000000000001c in ?? () #22 0x0000000000000002 in ?? () #23 0x00007ffffa067573 in ?? () #24 0x00007ffffa06757c in ?? () #25 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () I'll go load the debug packages and report back. Let me know if you have any ideas in the mean time... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org