On Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:24:28 Sam M wrote:
You are making a false assumption.
In response to your senseless diatribe, no, I am not making a false assumption. Are you familiar with the word extrapolate? So what, if only a limited amount of people have added the Current repo. It's obvious that you heed feedback from the limited user base that is using the software, and make changes to it as necessary. Your start going off about your presumption of how many people you think are using KDE with openSUSE, and that is completely irrelevant to the topic. Do the search for bugs on kde.org, not Novell's Bugzilla, and you'll find user gripes. Look on the Baloo developer's blog, and there are complaints. Look on the openSUSE forum, and there are complaints. Look on the Arch forum, and there are multiple threads of complaints. Many users know to file reports with KDE, not with Novell.
And of that estimation that you pulled out your rear end, not everybody speaks English, has the time to write about Baloo, knows it even exists, or gives a rat's ass about it. Your silly childless over the assuredness which you exhibit that only a few people on the mailing list means nothing just shows how pointless it is to continue to have any future dilogue with KDE or openSUSE developers. It's not a community project; it's a project where developers see things fit a specific way, and you're going to stonewall anybody else that is pointing out a serious design problem. Do you think i am going to worry about it? No, I'm not. I'll go to a different desktop environment, and everybody else gets to see all of your childish and elitist attitudes.
Good riddance. Your kind of help, *I* personally, do not need.
Perhaps in the overall ecosystem of all distributions, there is a higher number of folks complaining about baloo, but I'm only concerned about openSUSE, as this is the openSUSE-KDE mailing list.
Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!
So please,check your egos at the door. It's not that we don't care, it's because you don't matter, and frankly, I'm getting pretty bloody tired of this thread.
Take a look in the mirror, and if you're getting tired of it, don't read it. And if you are going to reply, you may as well attempt to try to help the situation, not act like a 9 year old little girl.
I read it, because I am a developer, and packager, and want to know what's going on. You, and the others have essentially clogged up this mailing list for the past four or five days with a pointless circular argument, and driven the signal:noise ratio through the roof. I look at the upstream bug reports when neccessary. But the Novell bugzilla is my primary concern. What Arch, or Fedora, or Debian, or whoever else is doing with baloo isn't relevant to what I VOLUNTEER my time to work on, you jackwad. You don't like the way baloo works, or was implemented? Start submitting code, or start paying us to make it operate the way you like it to. We make the best decision for the widest number of users we can possibly plan for. And apparently you're not in that group of folks that we planned for, and as I said, statistically insignificant.
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Shawn W Dunn
wrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:17:04 Sam M wrote:
A: File indexing can be disabled by adding the users' home folder to the System Settings -> Desktop Search -> Do not search in these locations list.
The thing is, not everybody is going to read the documentation or know to do this. How hard is it to have a GUI option to turn indexing off? You sound so positive that this foisted feature is wanted on a wide scale, but I'm coming across quite a few threads where people are talking about not liking it. It sounds like there are also quite a few unhappy users over Baloo when searching bug reports. Extrapolate this situation, and you have a lot more people who wouldn't like Baloo if they knew what it was or what it was doing, or you have people that understand its shortcomings and aren't whatsoever involved in forums or any mailing list.
You are making a false assumption.
As of the last "best guess" there are something like 440,000 users of openSUSE. KDE is the default desktop. So just for the sake of argument, lets say that 2/3rds of those installs are running KDE. 440,000 x .66 = 290,400 users.
Now, how many of those users are tracking KDE:Current, rather than just running with the default 4.11.4 from the 13.1 Repos?
I have no idea, but for the sake of argument, as most users never do actually change the defaults (a choice, I MIGHT add, that you made, by enabling KDE:Current, or KDE:Distro:Factory, or whatever non-base repo you decided to enable), lets say 3/4 of that userbase is still using defaults, which are still using nepomuk as the indexer. 290,400 x .25 = 72,600 Users, that have KDE repositories, other than the default 13.1 repos enabled.
So, just as an intellectual exercise, we have 72,600 users that are using openSUSE KDE 4.13.x with the baloo indexer at the moment.
Now, going and looking at the openSUSE bugzilla, and doing a simple search for "baloo" I find, wow, look at that! Not a single open bug report against Baloo. https://bugzilla.novell.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=baloo. So, we have, for the sake of argument, 72,600 Users of baloo, and ZERO bug reports, and near as I can tell, Five of you here on the mailing list, complaining about baloo, and the way it is implemented.
Five Users is what percentage of 72,600? Well, according to percentagecalculator.net, it is 0.0068870523415977955%
Statistically insignificant.
Perhaps in the overall ecosystem of all distributions, there is a higher number of folks complaining about baloo, but I'm only concerned about openSUSE, as this is the openSUSE-KDE mailing list.
So please,check your egos at the door. It's not that we don't care, it's because you don't matter, and frankly, I'm getting pretty bloody tired of this thread.