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Re: openSUSE KDE team (was Re: [opensuse-kde] Missing package/update in KDF)
Am Dienstag, 18. September 2012, 15:12:18 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
As Sven indicated I also have my doubts if KDE:Distro:Stable is really being
used by anybody. It just contains the KDE version that was shipped with the
latest openSUSE version and then compiled for all the supported openSUSE
version. I doubt that this is really a maintained repo and I would rather
see that this repo is replaced with one of the KR:xy repo.

Not having any statistics here about the usage I agree that with the KRxy
repos KDS hast lost a bit of its justification. But I still think it is of some
use:

- usage as a devel project for the last oS release. I personally always felt
better when a sr first went to KDS instead directly to the update repo as it is
an additional quality check for contributions of an not so experienced
packager
- The usage of providing the latest stable KDE for older versions of openSUSE
is of course also fulfilled by the KR repos.

So one idea might be to declare the KRxy repo with the the openSUSE release
KDE version as a KDE devel project for that openSUSE version and submit
updates to the official update repo from there.
If this happens there are IMHO two things to discuss:
1.) Should every minor update of the KDE SC be released as an official update?
Personally I would say that the last minor update should be mandatory and
everything else could be dealt with on a case by case basis.
2.) How to deal with packages not being part of KDE SC, e.g. amarok?
Here my personal opinion would be that as KRxy would be used as a devel
project also only bugfix release should be allowed. And one should probably be
a bit more conservative as it is the case fpr KRxy at the moment.



The usage of KDF is out of the question for me. This IS and WILL ALWAYS be
the development repo to support the KDE version in the next openSUSE
release. However if we start utilizing the KR:xy repo's correctly and keep
them up-to- date with the monthly minor releases, then KDF doesn't require
to be build against the 11.4, 12.1, 12.2 repo's. KDF could just be build
against Factory as that this is the one that matters. However as a process
we should establish that once the new openSUSE release is announced, we as
the community team should indicate what our target is for the KDE release.
So for 12.3 we should already now indicate whether we target KDE 4.10 or
KDE 4.9.5. Then we eliminate the discussions just before the feature
freeze, but have them already early in the process.

Here I would agree with Martin that KDF should still be build also for older
releases as independent of what comes out in the discussion how KDF and the
most recent KRxy repo should be related, it will always be the packages from
KDF which will be submitted to Factory and there still might be small
differences between these repos maybe because of mistakes because of linking
one to the other.


Let's been supportive of eachother !! In the past the KDE community team
managed to accomplish a lotand it would be a real shame to see this go to
waste.


+1

Christian
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