On 07.01.2012 12:09, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Samstag, 7. Januar 2012, 01:02:36 schrieb Roger Luedecke:
Frankly, 12.1 KDE has been so painful in many regards that i have rolled back my machines to 11.4 Gnome. I'm hoping that the KDE team will look on the many problems, and rather than push new technologies will instead press to fix the issues plaguing 12.1. Though 11.4 was rough out of the gates, it could be easily worked around and was almost entirely fixed and stabilized less than two months after its release. Frankly, with the minor decrease in quality and consistency of 11.4 and then the more serious issue around 12.1 I fear for the fate of openSUSE. I hope we can engage a meaningful dialog to address these issues and aim for a better product.
Sorry to say, but your email is useless.
You do not mention any concrete issues. You do not mention which KDE versions you tried, the STABLE repo does for example already contain quite a lot of plasma crash fixes.
Don't get me wrong, I do not doubt that there are issues – but such a general email is useless to tackle them. And since a lot of people write the opposite of your experiences with KDE 4.7 (except pim) there is really nothing anybody could take from your email in order to improve anything.
Let's make the world a better place, is as precise and helpful as your email.
Sven
Roger, I guess the best thing to do is filling bugreports on bnc. I know it's wiry to hear that all the time but that's how developers work. I too have been at odds with the 12.1 KDE during the Beta and RC phase but since I'm used to it, I like it. It seems to me that KDE 4.6.x was more integrated in 11.4 then 4.7.x in 12.1, maybe it's just my POV and anyone else is thinking otherwise. So, it's really like "these who can do, these who can't complain". Don't get me wrong, I think your feedback was okay and necessary for a working community, but as long as there aren't any ideas how to solve, there aren't any solutions too. In short: Either you come up with patcher on your own, or you give more information, nobody will cares. Hackers have the attitude to ignore posts which aren't "good enough" for them to answer. I'm afraid, that's how it all works. So, let's grab some more information, come back and deliver them, and then let's see what to do next to solve the issues (if not already done), okay? ;-) kdl -- Kim Leyendecker, openSUSE Wiki Team GPG Key: 664265369547B825 | leyendecker@opensuse.org http://www.opensuse.org - Linux for open minds -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org