On Sunday, 22 September 2002 23:21, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 23 September 2002 05.42, Carl wrote:
The SuSE release of 2.4.16 is ok, it contains some needed patches.
Isn't that working then?
//Anders
True, it does say Suse. But I am looking for at least SOME way to explain these problems to my boss. In looking around at the newsgroups, linuxnewbie, and /., I can tell you that we have now lost a very large new population of users because they simply could not make Linux work. Meaning problem releases like RedHat's 'C compiler' release, Mandrake's 8.0 and 8.1 releases, and Suse's 8 release. We've lost them for a long time because of incumbant attitudes like "Well maybe you SHOULD be running Windows if you can't figure it out...". The best remark of discouragement I saw was, "I don't want to be configuring all the time anymore. I just want to turn on the computer and be able to get work done. I've been using Linux now for 2 years and things =haven't= gotten better." I realize this doesn't sit well with the acolytes. But these are facts. Even I am seriously ready for Apple if things don't improve. Packaging tangled? Yast2 buggy and destructive? K selects Keramik over Liquid for political reasons, despite popular opinion? (so Mosfet quits) New releases, not BETTER releases? I'm now beyond wondering what could be wrong. I have one machine up now with Suse8/K3.0.3 and my fonts got muggered up again when I dared to install my .ttf's, just like with 7.3 . As with 7.3, one illegible font (saudi.ttf) has been substituted for display by MOST fonts. I can select any of 90% of my fonts, and they all look like saudi. WTF?! I remove saudi and then all lettering is just BLOCKS. THROUGHOUT K! Completely unusable, and no apparent place to fix it. I personally believe KDE and Gnome's inability to get their shit together has now alone doomed Linux. Patrick, thanks for the refer to Mantel, but the one Mantel I tried was busted. I need to stick with official releases to cover my arse.