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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Pet Peeves in GNOME
  • From: Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:18:49 -0400
  • Message-id: <1279016329.9890.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 14:26 +0530, Sankar P wrote:
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I hope this is taken in the right spirit, but I wanted to list a few of
my pet peeves with the GNOME desktop in openSUSE. I want to do this so
that I can help get these fixed [by tracking in upstream bugs, openSUSE
bugs or trying to see if I can fix them so on], hopefully by the next
release. I think it would be a good thing to list the minor problems
GNOME users face generally or in openSUSE alone, and I will list them
somewhere in the Wiki [probably just in my user page first], so that we
can start looking into these issues very early for the next version of
Let us just keep this list to minor usability issues, so that something
like "YaST-GTK vs YaST-QT [Redux]" is probably not very contextual
My pet peeves:-
1. openSUSE: Notification/tooltip theme in openSUSE
-- openSUSE 11.3 comes out in a couple of days, but it still uses the
same notification/tooltip theme used in the earlier versions. Fedora 13
and Ubuntu 10.04 on the other hand have moved to a much more elegant
tooltip/notification theme [see
which does add some beauty to the desktop.
I actually prefer opaque tooltips. Sometimes the text is unreadable in
transparent backgrounds.

+1 This is especially true for those with red/green color blindness.
Substituting 'elegance' for readability seems the wrong way to go.

2. Upstream: Icon scrambling in the desktop
-- Too often something like this happens: insert USB disk, safely remove
USB disk, create a document "X" in the desktop (around the same location
where the USB disk icon was), and re-insert USB disk. The USB-disk icon
and the X icon appear on top of each other, making it impossible to
click on one without dragging the icon of the other to some other place
in the desktop.

I've seen this on. I just figured GNOME 3 was the answer: stop putting
crap on the desktop. But picking an empty grid location for the icon
would be nice.

4. openSUSE: CD drive getting locked in by the GNOME desktop
-- Happens only in GNOME, and not on KDE. Also does not happen in
But I have never tried Ubuntu. So dont know if it is a oS only issue.

Hmmm. I've never experienced that one.

My pet peeves:
1) Inability to connect to wireless/VPN without using mouse
(networkmanager is not so a11y friendly imo)

It irritates me when I have a wired connection an NM proceeds to also
try to bring up the wireless. A
once-you've-got-a-connection-stop-trying-to-connect option would be
nice. Otherwise I've already started working when a wireless
authentication dialog appears; and it keeps appearing until I disable
the wireless.

2) Refresh the wireless network list, without having to manually
switch off the wireless button

My list updates automatically. (?)

3) I want to just see what is the time now in Nuremeberg and want to
close the calendar applet. A simple keyboard shortcut to toggle
between open/close of the calendar.


One more annoying issue is in Firefox (technically not GNOME issue),
The invalid security certificate accept workflow. This is a perfect
example of "how not to design a workflow" imo. With Chrome, it is just
one button-click "Proceed Anyway" (or something like that). Whereas,
in FF, we need to "Get Certificate", See some random animations,
Accept etc. I suggest my family/friends to use Chrome just because of
this one issue.

I just want a system parameter to disable, completely, the ability of a
user to accept an invalid certificate.

Most of the above issues are not oS specific. They are applicable in
upstream also. So, they are GNOME pet-peeves to be precise.

Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> LPIC-1, Novell CLA
OpenGroupware, Cyrus IMAPd, Postfix, OpenLDAP, Samba

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