Hello, we've recently encountered some problems with the LXDM login manager and it has turned out that the codebase is not really mature yet and suffers from some IMO rather fundamental quality problems which need to be addressed upstream (see. eg bnc#584573). It would therefore be desirable to have GDM as a fallback for users who encounter problems with LXDM or even to possibly switch to it as the default login manager for the 11.3 release. The problem is that GDM currently depends on most of the Gnome desktop through its dependency on gnome-panel and gnome-session. The indirect dependencies could be drastically reduced by putting the libgnome-panel-2 library and the core runtime files of gnome session in separate subpackages of gnome-panel and gnome-session and by making gdm depend on these subpackages only. It is pretty late, but would it be possible to reorganize the three packages like this? Experimental versions of the three packages can be found in home:gberh:gdm. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org