Hi, when it comes to YaST, as somebody might listen to me right now, I'd like to say I have YaST QT software management interface. Completely unsuable, machine friendly and so 1990... YaST-GTK has a lot better interface and is really friendly. Even command line zypper is more friendly than the one I personally hate. I'm really against saying "I hate" and so but I have no choice. Over the years the interface of YaST has not changed a lot. If it changed anything else than Qt3 → Qt4. KDE has changed, has gone simplified, unified, more powerful, what I can't say about de facto KDE-dedicated interface of YaST. It looks out of place (I'm not talking about Qt style and icons - they're ok). Just for feature-parity and usability-parity I'd like to see Qt one be comparable to GTK one (identical, I guess). PS I used to use GNOME everyday and I wasn't complaining about YaST then, it was awesome that it was getting a GTK interface (10.3). After then I moved to KDE4 (4.2.x) and found YaST interface really ugly. When I was using SuSE 10.1 I noticed that interface and I didn't like it. Ubuntu, Fedora - they had better, more friendly tools. When PackageKit came, there's a little problem for you: to use it or not to use it. Using it is way around to getting to basic package management, while YaST is ready. You should learn about interface then. Even KPackageKit is quite nice. And don't tell me to use GTK one, since I do, but do something for new users, about which I care right now. Thank you for listening. -- Best regards, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://blog.jakubrusinek.pl/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org