[opensuse-gnome] Re: GNOME Live CD trimming

25 Apr 2008

      On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 07:17 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
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Am Freitag, 25. April 2008 schrieb Hans Petter Jansson:
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bug-buddy - 1985624 bytes
        * We have no debuginfo anyway, so it's next to useless.
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Well, you can install debuginfos as soon as bug-buddy greets you, no?
And I thought bug-buddy is also used to report bugs to gnome?
Yeah. Can you install debuginfo packages on the live system?
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* The google breakpad part is huge.
        * It also installs a static version of the breakpad lib (?!).
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That sounds like a valid bug report :)
Will file.
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xterm - 1989755 bytes
        * I don't think we need two terminal programs, especially not
        when one is so huge. gnome-terminal doesn't have any serious
        technical shortcomings, and xterm is pretty much hidden from the
        user as it is.
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Yeah, but I'm really afraid people will shoot me if I take this off ;)
Let them make their own "old farts" live CD. You don't see me crying
about rxvt or emacs, eh :)
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icewm - 1017076 bytes
icewm-lite - 643576 bytes
        * Superfluous window manager.
        * Is this needed for the installer or yast somehow?
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It's needed by sax2 for the test environment. The installer needs it too,
but that is not so interesting unless we offer a direct way to start the
installer (which I'm thinking about).
Ok. Is there some way we can tell sax which window manager to use? Then
we could re-use metacity. It sounds like it could be a quick hack.
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tasque - 677049 bytes
        * I don't think this is mature enough to warrant the space on
        the Live CD.
        * Evolution has task support.
        * Requires Inet connectivity?
        * Currently crashes on start due to missing Mono dep
        NDesk.DBus.GLib.
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See #379486
I'm not crazy about that decision...
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xournal - 330731 bytes
        * It's a note-taking app that looks like a real journal with
        margins and guide lines. Lets you doodle.
        * Too specialized for the Live CD?
        * We're shipping Tomboy notes.
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This comes from the gnome-laptop selection. It's been in there before
I took over, so no idea. It's not exactly large either.
Every little bit helps, plus I couldn't actually get it to do anything
useful. Maybe it needs a pressure-sensitive input in order to draw. And
it's kind of ugly.
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bc - 228015 bytes
        * Too exotic for the Live CD? gcalctool sufficient?
        * Only important dependent seems to be openssl, but I don't
        think it's needed for openssl consuming programs (removed it
        from my main computer with seemingly no ill effects).
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Actually ddrescue requires it, which I put on the live cd for recovery.
Ah, I thought that dep was bogus because there's a GNU ddrescue that's
just compiled C++ with no external deps apart from the C++ libs. But our
ddrescue package actually contains dd_rescue, which is a different tool
that comes with a wrapper script (dd_rhelp) that uses bc in a number of
places, thusly:

[ "$( echo "$kbytes < 1024" | bc)" == "1" ] && { echo -n "$kbytes Ko" ;
return 0; }

The GNU ddrescue looks better, so maybe it's worth shipping that
instead?