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[openFATE 307617] Make XFS the Default Filesystem
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  • Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:26:29 +0000 (GMT)
  • Message-id: <feature-307617-10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Feature changed by: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh)
Feature #307617, revision 10
Title: Make XFS the Default Filesystem

openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Requester: Desirable

Requested by: Charles Wright (asnrcw)
Partner organization:

Or at least allow the user to choose which filesystem to use during the
install process.

Business case (Partner benefit): XFS is stable, has good performance and doesn't keep your
hard drive awake with journaling.

#1: Stephen Kellat (skellat) (2009-09-05 18:10:27)
How is this not already provided for in the installer's partition
editor?  If memory serves I can use XFS when I am partitioning during a
DVD-based install.

#2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-11-17 18:12:07)
XFS does not have the data reliability enhancements mde to ext3/ext4
and ext4 is faster over all benchmark tests I come across.  ext4 has
more active developers, with XFS a small pool.
In 11.2 I actually did format some XFS filessystems, for storing large
file data, which I wanted to share with older version Linux, so this
feature is alraedy implemented.
Do custom partition (for experts), size the disks, then you have
filesystem format & fstab option form.

#3: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-12-05 14:18:46) (reply to #2)
Ext* does not have the fast quota bulkstat and atomic quota-keeping
that XFS does.

#5: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-10 17:30:44) (reply to #3)
XFS is slow on mass deletions.  How many openSUSE users need to manage
XFS tends to result in files filled with nulls if you don't use a UPS,
and SGI workstations were designed to maintain power to disks to
complete transfers for a while on power disruption, to avoid this

#8: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-12-12 14:25:47) (reply to #5)
>XFS tends to result in files filled with nulls if you don't use a UPS
Boo. Go do your homework, ext4 basically has the same issue. As does
ext3, just to a lesser extent because it commits more often.

#7: Markus K (kamikazow) (2009-12-12 09:27:06) (reply to #2)
Considering how many times my ext filesystems were trashed and I never
ever had any data loss problem with XFS, XFS is the only sensible
choice ATM.

+ #9: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-12-12 14:26:37) (reply to #7)
+ You realize that "I never had a crash with xyz, but I did have tons
+ with abc" is the least convincing argument of all. Because everybody
+ has a different xyz and abc.

#4: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-12-05 14:22:02)
XFS does come to show age when dealing with a lots of metadata updates
(prime example: extracting kernel source).

#6: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-10 17:34:52) (reply to #4)
I am using XFS for compatability with older releases, and it is a fine
file system for large files, but just not sensible choice for default
filesystem.  There were difficulties with boot loader to for 11.1,
where using ext2/3 was the recommended option, I believe due to
limitations in GRUB 0.97.

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