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[openFATE 307499] Default installation desktop decison criteria
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  • Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 01:18:39 +0100 (CET)
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Feature changed by: Robert Davies (robopensuse)
Feature #307499, revision 3
Title: Default installation desktop decison criteria

openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Requester: Desirable

Requested by: David Hodgson (jetojedno)
Partner organization:

There has been a lot of discussion about the "correct" default
installation desktop of openSuSE, and the default for 11.2 was decided
based upon popularity.
This criterion is fine, but I think this is not the bext criteria for
deciding the default installation desktop.  The default desktop
primarily affects naive Linux users who are not being guided by an
experienced Linux user (assuming the default can be changed during the
install).  These are the people who are most likely to make a passive
decision (go with the default).  Experienced Linux users and naive
users being guided are going to make an active decision for a familiar,
recommended or suitable desktop.
I would argue that our primary concern should be ensuring that: 1)
existing users of Linux / openSuSE are not forced away by the default,
and; 2) naive users of Linux should find the transition to Linux as
easy as possible.
The best criteria for the default installation desktop for naive users
is the ease-of-use of the desktop environment (DE), part of which is
the desktop's similarity in look-and-feel to Windows.  Most naive users
will be familiar with Windows and will expect things in Linux to found
in the same places and behave in much the same fashion.
Part of this similarity is the functionality - are all of the expected
components of Windows available and working reliably in the chosen DE?
If the quality of support for the leading DEs is maintained than the
decision about a default should not force away existing experienced
Linux users.  I think it unlikely that a decision about the DE default
is going to attract experienced Linux users, unless it is projected as
a prejudice in the marketing materials.
I propose that openSuSE decides the default desktop based upon the DE's
ease-of-use for naive Linux users and that the project collects through
surveys and other means the information necessary to make this decision

Business case (Partner benefit): We should make this change to maximise the user base for

#1: Ralph Ulrich (ulenrich) (2009-08-26 13:45:09)
naive Linux first time users are directed directly to Ubuntu all
throughout the media these days.
If there is a marketshare to explore for a distribution it is Kde-4
If there is a distribution where users can support other users using
Kde-4 it is openSUSE

+ #2: Robert Davies (robopensuse) (2009-12-01 01:17:25)
+ This is not very relevant.  New users probably start with Live CD, and
+ whether they download GNOME or KDE is likely depending on what web page
+ they have been reading.
+ In the install, this decision is trivial, the fuss over a simple pre-
+ selection, which reduces install clicks for the majority of oS users,
+ and DOES NOT increase number of clicks for disgruntled GNOME users,
+ confounds me.
+ The proposed criteria cause the need for a big subjective debate which
+ would be a huge waste of time, over what is the easiest desktop for
+ naive Linux users.
+ There is nothing wrong with the survey conducted and download
+ statistics, KDE is more popular than GNOME with openSUSE users, and
+ still is despite the recent troubles with KDE4.  Time to accept that,
+ rather than try to reopen debates.

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