On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:15:40PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
simonizor composed on 2019-11-11 17:56 (UTC-0600):
Stefan Dirsch composed on 2019-11-11 15:51 (UTC+0100):
I seriously doubt this logfile has been created by xinit or startx. IIRC gnome writes the X logfile there for the Xserver which is being used for the usersession itself (gdm greeter uses its own Xserver or Wayland).
They straight up said that they did not believe that the user's log actually came from where the user said it came from.
Stefan is actually one of the few people on the planet capable of making that statement with any authority.
Now I feel a bit embarassed. ;-) I wasn't aware being that popular and that even in a positive sense. ;-) I was indeed wrong in the assumption, that ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.n.log would have been created by GNOME and not xinit/startx/Xorg itself. I'm still learning about "new" features of X server using $XDG_DATA_HOME/xorg/Xorg.n.log for regular users meanwhile. It wasn't my intention to define what's appropriate to use and what not, just to make clear that we're no longer looking closely into startx/xinit problems since a long time. Using those should be limited to a special use case, where you know exactly what you're doing and not expecting much help if you are crying for help. ;-) And there are still users around using startx/xinit because they do this since 20 years (or getting told this by people using it since 20 years), for whom it would make things even much easier to use a displaymanager nowadays. It's hard to judge if one of these is writing or a person with a special case depending on xinit/startx, if you don't that person. Funfact: For testing I prefer to start Xorg manually, export my DISPLAY and run the approprite X application that way. I can do this easily also via ssh. ;-) Thanks, Stefan P.S.: I have never been on the openSUSE board. I believe Felix is mixing me up with Stephan Kulow in this aspect here. ;-) Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------------- (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org