Am 17.10.19 um 11:01 schrieb Richard Brown:
On Thu, 2019-10-17 at 10:31 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
So what are people using to find certain packages available in the repos if you you look for a category?
Discover and GNOME Software which gets their categorisations from AppData, not the nonsense, mislabelled, unstructured, invalid, and unncessary burden on packagers that is RPM Groups.
It is no burden for me. Jan corrected the groups in some of "my" packages, and I just did not touch them afterwards. The burden of just not touching the group: line is very low, compared to other stuff that gets imposed on packagers for no good reason.
AppData already provides all the tagging and metadata nonsense which Jan seems to be crusading for, and so expecting something beneficial to be somehow accomplished by sticking on the failed concept of "RPM Groups" is downright bizzare to me.
But rpm groups just needs a few bytes per package, whereas appdata is a multi-megabyte unbearably slow (apparently always coming from download.o.o?) download. It's so annoying that I finally patched libzypp to just ignore this useless (to me) stuff completely.
If anyone is seriously using RPM Groups under the illusion they're remotely accurate, they'd be better served by reading tea leaves, asking a magic 8-ball, or sticking their head out of the window and asking a passing airborne porcine.
Thanks for valuing Jan's contribution in fixing up the groups and making them more than "remotely accurate".
Jan's crusade here, and the manner in which he is conducting it, is so blatently infantile that he has successfully managed to motivate me from being on the fence on this topic to now ensuring that I will actively remove the RPM Group from any spec file I touch from this point today.
Better not touch "my" packages ;-) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org