On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Felix Miata
Ludwig Nussel composed on 2018-10-241 0:35 (UTC+0200):
hellcp@opensuse.org schrieb:
Sub categories, we should have just Main categories. They require less
fd.o's standard consists of 2 distinct parts, Main categories [1] and Additional categories [2]. Instead of having menus consist of Main categories maintance, less icons, less translations and standard around them is updated less frequently.
If nobody else has an opinion on that fine with me. Personally I'd favor installing less by default anyways which would mean less crowded menus.
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Those submenus are one of my favorite openSUSE features. I've liked the tree branching menu style for more than two decades. Scrolling through main category lists is a pain, particularly when you don't know by name which app you're looking for.
Issue as always comes down to ability to maintain the 130 categories we got now. Freedesktop didn't expect that kind of usecase, and the only icons that __have to__ be in icon theme package are the main categories. Icons for additional categories are on our shoulders. Currently in factory we have 42 icon themes. If we subtract 13 main categories from 130 additional categories we maintain, we get 117. If we multiply 117 times 42, we get 4914. I do not know about you, but I am not willing to draw 4914 icons in 42 styles (adding to that obviously that some themes require multiple sizes of icons, for most themes that's 6 sizes, 702 icons per theme with such requirement). Obviously, we could ask freedesktop nicely if they wouldn't add that to standard theme icons, but that standard is supposed to remain as simple as possible, so I doubt that will happen. I'm trying my best to make YaST of all the things as easy to theme as possible, which is already happening, but one of the things I am advocating for is using as many icons from the fd.o standard, so both YaST team, Noah Davis, and me have way less work with additional themes that have to be created additionally to make YaST, and all the other openSUSE specific icons, integrate nicely with desktops we offer. Obviously, if you are willing to do the work required, I am all for it. Currently all the icons are in Oxygen theme, and I can assist you with new Gnome HIG guidelines, and I bet Noah will be happy to help with Breeze guidelines, but you cannot rely completly on us, because we have a lot of work to do already regarding the mess of theming that has been happening over the last 7 years or so. Or you could use Menulibre to create your own menus when we decide to drop the long list of current categories. I also created a nice short template for jekyll that generates menus based on new structure of directories I proposed here, which preserves the submenus for subcategories in my fork of brp-check-suse [1] LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world [1] https://github.com/hellcp/brp-check-suse/tree/master/brp-desktop.data/genera... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org