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Re: [opensuse-factory] snapshot 20180301 - lots of new warning messages
  • From: Stefan Brüns <stefan.bruens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 01:46:12 +0100
  • Message-id: <2017371.4RQ1aaFd24@pebbles>
On Samstag, 3. März 2018 20:20:58 CET Fabian Vogt wrote:

Am Samstag, 3. M?rz 2018, 20:03:00 CET schrieb Michael Hirmke:
Hi *,

after installing this snapshot I have lots of new warning messages in my

journal logs:
This is caused by this change:

==== libqt5-qtbase ====

- Enable journald support (boo#1050461)

so instead of arriving in ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log, they get
written into the systemd journal now.

This doesn't only affect plasma and applications started by it, but all
applications using the Qt logging facilities started without a connected

That there's quite a lot of additional journal messages now was a concern
for the change, but it's rather minor compared to the benefit of having a
more complete journal.

Also note, although the output is currently *too* verbose in general, this
should and can be fixed on the calling site:

1) by fixing errors in the first place
2) by demoting log levels of debug messages, i.e. only keeping *real warnings*
3) by lowering the default log level to warning

This helps both users and developers. Developers can request more
informational messages from users, users get more helpful messages by default
in the first place.

There is already work happening to address all three issues, but this will
take some time.

Kind regards,


Stefan Brüns / Bergstraße 21 / 52062 Aachen
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