On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 19:52:58 +0100
Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink
What IMNSHO is wrong in your mail, is the connection FOSS - Ubuntu. Canonical/ Ubuntu/Canonical have proved over and over again that FOSS is not the way they do things. Development of f.e. Unity, Mir behind closed doors are good examples of a different attitude, compared f.e. to how openSUSE's re. OBS, openQA. Another difference is that SUSE never ever has forced in any direction, a good example being KDE as the desktop checked for install by default. Plus, just remember the Kubuntu drop by Ubuntu/Canonical.
I am not on anyone's side here. Not Ubuntu's, not Canonical's. All I have ever had from them, except the OS, is a few stickers and ballpoint pens. :-) But your email perpetuates some FUD that rivals have spread. Unity is and always was FOSS. There are currently 3 forks I'm aware of: https://yunit.io/ -- focussed on the desktop version of Unity 8 https://ubports.com/ -- focussed on the phone/tablet version of Unity 8 https://artemis-project.github.io/about/ -- focussed on Unity 7 Mir is still being developed, mainly now for embedded stuff. Source etc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir Launchpad was an internal company tool but after requests it too has been opened. Source etc. here: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting I think "forced in any direction" is gross misrepresentation. The idea of Ubuntu was inherited from UserLinux: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UserLinux The idea was to eliminate all the complexity that beset 1990s distros -- the profusion of choices of components, meaning questions that were not answerable by non-technical people who did not know their way around FOSS. The statement was simple and not controversial: that usually, there is an identifiable best-of-breed product in every major software category, from desktop to web browser, and their plan was to include that and thus minimise the number of questions asked by the installer. In other words, to follow the KISS principle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle Ubuntu just took the unfinished idea and made it happen. You and anyone are perfectly entitled to disagree with the choices. Ubuntu embraced this from the start: it included packages for KDE, so if you wanted that, you could install it. It has fostered and encouraged the development of editions with other desktops and other sets of software choices, from very early on. Eliminating difficult questions from an installation program is _not_ "forcing" people to do anything. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org