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Re: [opensuse-factory] upgrade packaging not statically built
On 14/11/17 02:04, Richard Brown wrote:
On 13 November 2017 at 15:13, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Why it makes sense is pretty simple, bad stuff happens,

It seems that bad stuff that happened here is triggered somewhere
between chair and display.

Also note that for regulary maintained releases, zypper patch will
update package management stack (zypper, libzypp, rpm) befor installing
other updates. This does not make sense for dist upgrade where exactly
stuff that happened to you would happen - but hey I guess you know
better then developers of distribution.

But "zypper dup" is the reccomended method to upgrade from, say, Leap 42.3
to 15.0. It is supposed to work out of the box.

There is, of course, another method using the DVD, which I personally
If you expect migrations to work perfectly between a released product
and the earliest development versions of a brand new codebase, then
you are quite frankly stupid.

If you run into problems and do not file bug reports, then you are
quite frankly useless

If you don't file bug reports and instead wax lyrical about how other
distributions from a bygone age managed things on the -factory
mailinglist, then you are both useless and wasting everybodies time.

I think that it is time for you to move on and make way for someone who
has the appropriate qualities to not only be an Ordinary Member of the
openSUSE Board but, more importantly, to be the Chairman, who is also
SUSE owners' representative, of this Board.

Not only do you first publicly declare that you consider users of the
opensuse mail list to be 'scum and [villains]' but you now further
reduce your claim to any professional integrity, and the integrity of
the openSUSE Board itself, by insulting Carlos by calling him 'stupid'
and 'useless'.

Such obnoxious slurring of the general users of openSUSE by calling them
'scum and [villains]' in the opensuse mail list and now insulting one
particular member of the Community by calling him 'stupid' and 'useless'
is not what people expect from an Ordinary Member of the openSUSE Board
let alone its Chairman.

Move on. You have been Chairman of the Board for several years now and
even you must realise that you deserve a well earned rest -- and we
won't have to be called 'scum and [villains]' and individuals won't have
to be called 'stupid' and 'useless'.

At the very least, bearing in mind recent history of the Board's
decisions, the Board should ban you for life from posting in any of the
openSUSE mail lists.

Basil Chupin           B.Com.(Ec.)

"You should never argue about politics or religion. Or anything else
if you're going to come out with crap like that."
Anonymous circa 2013

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