Hi, while we're at XFCE update: another topic I had in my mind since the last year is to enable PulseAudio as default for XFCE. I know many people are still using ALSA directly, but for the new system, deploying PA would be (supposedly) less pain for a wider range of users. Looking at the current setup, we have the following: - In patterns-xfce4, the spec contains: %package xfce_basis .... Requires: xfce4-mixer Requires: xfce4-notifyd - In xfce4-branding-openSUSE, the spec contains: %package -n xfce4-panel-branding-openSUSE .... Recommends: xfce4-mixer Recommends: xfce4-panel-plugin-mixer Now the questions are: - Do we still need Requires in patterns-xfce4? - Just replacing xfce4-mixer with pavucontrol and xfce4-panel-plugin-mixer with xfce4-panel-plugin-pulseaudio works? This should drag pulseaudio package. alsa-plugins-pulse should be also included by recommends. - What to do with users who currently don't install pulseaudio yet? When pulseaudio package is installed, PA is started at the next session via desktop autostart. It can be disabled via running setup-pulseaudio --disable once, but this can't be done automagically. thanks, Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org