On Mon, 2017-07-24 at 16:53 +0300, Mykola Krachkovsky wrote:
понеділок, 24 липня 2017 р. 15:21:50 EEST Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar написано:
bundle-lang-kde-* contains the for example kio-lang and it obsoletes kio-lang < 5.36 (current version) - as it provides it as well.
So there is really nothing wrong there
gstreamer-lang is provided/obsoleted by bundle-lang-common-*
Cheers, Dominique
I still can't understand why it is OK. 1. We have installed kio (5.35.0), kio-lang (5.35.0), bundle-lang- kde-en (for some reason there is no bundle-lang-kde-uk for Ukrainian). 2. Doing update via "zypper dup --no-recommends"
Expected results: Updating kio to 5.36.0, kio-lang to 5.36.0 and bundle-lang-kde-en to 13.2-48.2.
kio-lang is provided by bundle-lang-kde-en - and old versions obsoleted by it. But indeed there are not all languages in there (it's english only, and the other bundles for specific languages) - so I can see (now) how this is causing trouble on a user of 'non-bundle languages'; as for not havung -uk bundles: there was no 'demand' for bundles (the primary focus was getting 'more' translations on the limited size media, where *-lang was 'too much', so the bundles came to live. might be the moment to dispose of them in TW too (Leap eliminated them aready).. Anybody sad if they are gone? This would likely result in the DVD not being able to ship translations for most things - if this worked for Leap, it can't be an issue for TW, where an internet connection is quite essential anyway, so the -lang packages can be installed in plus as needed.
Actual results: Updateing kio to 5.36.0, bundle-lang-kde-en to 13.2-48.2 and removing kio- lang.
Looks like a bug to me.
Yeah, can be argued as such; interesting that this has not been uncovered in the last 10 years we have those bundles :) - quite impressive; and the case shown is definitively not happening the first time neither. somehow I think our '-lang' packages might have lost some locale(foo:LANG) provides, which would give zypp the hints that a -lang package is still needed (bundle-gnome-en for example provides locale(totem:en) - totem-lang does not) I recommend you file it as a bug about this, so it can be analysed further Cheers, Dominique