On 2017-06-18 19:43, Larx wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 18.06.2017, 12:36 +0200 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
The main reason for the request to use susepaste is politeness. Ie, not forcing all the subscribers to download large posts that they are not interested in. Remember that there are still people using bad internet connections and others that have to pay for each megabyte they download.
Another reason is that pasting a log file into an email often makes the line wrap making it difficult to read. Instead uploading intact to somewhere keeps the long lines.
This is slightly (completely) OT, but I really had to convince myself to sign in to a mailing list one again. When I started about probably 20 years ago, it was OK to have mailboxes full of list traffic. Now I have other priorities in live, and nowadays am used to have e.g. user friendly forums with attachments for logs, Github issue pages, the option to selectively follow only the topics I'm interested, and so on. I can concentrate on other things in life than browsing through lists.
As I like SUSE and want to have an usable 42.3, I once again plunged in the openSUSE infrastructure and am appalled at how backwards (sorry) this all seams. Mailinglists with 90ies interfaces, unusable on mobile, a completely seperate place to put logs, and a Bugzilla with a strange UI (compare it to others), where I have to create an account which wants to know all kinds of things from me as if I am a corporate customer of Novell.
A mailing list is the same thing anywhere. The interface is your mail client. And about the bugzilla account, there is one link somewhere that doesn't ask that much. But I don't remember it.
I am really also appalled to hear network traffic limitations as a reason for this - time has moved on and we should not longer take 33.6k modems into account.
The entire world is not modernized. At home, I have unlimited and fast internet. When not at home, I have less speed, and a monthly cap. Without considering third world countries, the other day we were talking about what internet connection some people get on Australia, and it is not brilliant at all.
Sorry for the OT, but all this came into my mind when trying to take part in the openSUSE world once again.
This complete infrastructure is unworthy of this great distro!!
You could contribute to make it better. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)