On 13 April 2017 at 15:29, Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Jan Engelhardt
wrote: On Thursday 2017-04-13 14:53, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
Hello, most Linux distributions are using GNOME by default, including:
Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu starting with v18.04, RHEL and most of it's derivatives, and even SUSE Linux enterprise; so why openSUSE is using KDE by default?
Why not? Why does everyone have to use GNOME? If your argument carried, we should all be using Windows, not GNOME.
GNOME is more stable, has better support for Wayland and is extremely beautiful.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Is not GNOME more secure than KDE even?
Papers or it didn't happen.
In many ways, SUSE Linux Enterprise is the oddball here. The switch to GNOME occurred during that point in time where Novell didn't particularly care about SLE, and they had acquired Ximian, who invested quite heavily into the GNOME ecosystem (in part because Miguel de Icaza, who ran Ximian, helped create GNOME).
If anything, I'm more surprised that SUSE Linux Enterprise didn't switch back...
I disagree. I think GNOME makes the better sense for an Enterprise distributions I explained my thoughts as to why, at length, with the KDE project some time last year: https://lwn.net/Articles/681631/ https://lwn.net/Articles/681637/ LWN were kind enough to summarise the article if people do not want to read me sprouting on for ages: https://lwn.net/Articles/681417/ The REALLY short version of my opinion is: I do not think the upstream KDE project is positioned, structured, and responsive in a way that makes sense for an Enterprise distribution. I also think that the current offerings of the KDE project are not of sufficient quality to justify being the default in any community distribution, not even openSUSE. Neither of my above opinions should be read imply any sort of negativity towards OUR KDE team. I have a very, very, very high level of respect, admiration, amazement, and more for our openSUSE KDE team. Their exceptional efforts despite the hurdles in-front of them do not subtract from my opinion that KDE upstream makes things harder than necessary to live with them. KDE is openSUSE's current default for historical reasons. I do not mind if it continues to be so. If this debate is to be opened again, I would advocate for the following: Tumbleweed with no default - Because Tumbleweed aims for a more advanced user who should be able to pick between KDE, GNOME, or whatever they want easily enough Leap with GNOME default - Because that is the standard desktop environment of not only SLES, but RHEL, CentOS, Debian, and now even Ubuntu. Even if we ignore my above feelings regarding the KDE proejct, given Leap's close relationship to SLES and direct support of SLES packages from SUSE, GNOME should be the showcase desktop environment in that distribution. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org