On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Tomáš Čech
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 02:41:08PM -0800, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Tomáš Čech
wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 05:16:12PM +0100, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
The bureaucracy is why I stopped contributing packages to Factory.
Simple as that.
Getting a package building and functioning is enough work. I just don't have the energy/time to pass the Factory 'bar' afterwards.
The interesting point here is that both parties are satisfied.
I don't read Klaus' statement as one of satisfaction. I infer he still wishes he could have found someone who was willing to work with him to get the package into Factory.
OK, poor wording on my side. I should say - situation is balanced.
We've got good and maintainable distribution with good package quality.
The sentence above indicates to me that you don't wish the distribution to grow the number of components offered for an installer's choice at installation of openSUSE because that would increase the difficulty in maintaining the package quality. I agree, it would increase the effort required to maintain the quality. The loss inherent in such a balance is an installer of openSUSE would need to repeat Klaus' effort before the said installer could also use the same package. That may be a teaching moment in the life of the installer, but it would be a loss of available time to do the many other things that represent an improvement in the quality of openSUSE.
The title of this thread is "how to get more packages into a central repo". It sounds to me Klaus found out how to become discouraged. I think there is a shared responsibility for the lack of the inclusion of whatever package Klaus got built and functioning, but not in Factory between Klaus and whomever made the personal decision(s) not to step forward and offer help or reduce the effort to include a package.
I think that situation has changed over the years. I can only guess but I think that Klaus' experience is not recent. With the OBS which has support for many distributions spec file compatibility is valued feature and I can't imagine that anyone from review team would rant about it these days. You can see that also on preferred behavior in spec-cleaner tool.
My experience with review team was always stellar. When the request is denied, I know why or I can ask further.
Sometimes I even got SR with the fix but I'd never rant if there is none.
They do it in their free time and there is no really no fun in this activity. If it works, it is silently accepted, when there is problem, they are to blame. If you don't belive it, try it. I did. For me they are true silent heroes of our distribution ;)
I think this is where Richard Brown's suggestion to, "4i. Talk about it!" is relevant. Here, in this posting, you have thanked those "silent heroes". Perhaps there is some way we can learn to give our thanks each time they have benefited openSUSE with their efforts on our individual behalf? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org