Am Freitag, 20. November 2015, 13:22:21 schrieb Werner Flamme:
Where would I know?
You should be able to tell the difference between the two. Check whether you have kdebase4-workspace or plasma5-workspace installed. You could also have a look in kinfocenter, the Plasma5 version should tell you which version of Plasma you have installed.
I installed TW when 13.2 was fresh :).
Well, when 13.2 was fresh, the default KDE desktop was KDE4. But it has been switched to Plasma5 some time in May IIRC. If you applied all updates, you should be using Plasma5 now.
Is has been a while, and I applied all updates. I think yes, there are a lot of KDE4 packages left. But due to the checking in openQA, they should fit into the current environment, I think.
Yes. Not all KDE4 applications have been ported yet, so it is normal that you still have a lot of KDE4 packages left. But due to the checking in openQA, there should be no file missing either.
Some time ago, the file moved from krandr to kscreen, IIRC. kscreen is installed, the file is not present. And "startx" still needs it.
Nothing "moved". With KDE 4.11 (in openSUSE 13.1 already) kscreen replaced krandr for screen management. And KDE4's startkde (not startx) calls krandrstartup to apply the screen settings on startup, so kscreen contained a dummy script (it uses a daemon for applying the settings). But as I wrote, that is no longer true for Plasma5. krandr is dead, and krandrstartup is no longer called by startkde.
Would explain why you only see this problem just now, after upgrading... ;-) Not for me, if the relations between packages ("obsoletes", "requires" a.s.o.) are correct :)
Well, the question is when you installed updates the last time... ;-) If your system is outdated, the package dependencies would still be ok. Again, if you regularly updated your system, you should have Plasma5 instead of the KDE4 desktop since May, and that one doesn't have nor need krandrstartup. But if you didn't install updates, you shouldn't have had a problem with a missing krandrstartup either. There was a change in the KDE4 dependencies in the Leap development cycle to not require kscreen any more: https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff/KDE:Distro:Factory/kdebase4-workspace?linkrev=base&rev=1150 And kscreen (the KDE4 version) has been removed completely because it didn't build any more (or something like that, I don't know). And it's the KDE4 kscreen package (version 1.0.71) that contains krandrstartup which you need to start the KDE4 desktop, so you might have to install krandr manually now or create a dummy krandrstartup script yourself if you want to use KDE4. We probably could add one to the libkscreen package, but the actual configuration module would still be missing. The problem you described can only happen if you locked kdebase4-workspace and actively blocked the installation of Plasma5. But that's not supported, you are on your own in that case, and it might stop working completely any time as you noticed. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org