At Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:20:38 +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 06.07.2015 um 15:01 schrieb Richard Brown:
On 6 July 2015 at 14:55, Takashi Iwai
wrote: Well, speaking of kernel, the biggest problem to take SLE12 version is the lack of hardware support, particularly the graphics. If you have a laptop younger than two or three years old, you have little chance to make it running with 42 in native graphics. Similarly, most of new WiFi chips won't work with 42.
How hard would it be to backport fixes to resolve that? Surely SUSE need to also get SLED 12 working on hardware that new?
How many SLED subscriptions have been sold? Since probably nobody is really using it, no backports are needed.
I would personally suggest to just always use Kernel:Stable for the openSUSE release.
The current Kernel is supposed to be stable. And kernel hackers (not only SUSE's kernel hackers) will support us.
After it is known that we (as openSUSE community) are not able to maintain our own kernel version (see the mess that 13.2 is), and we probably don't have the manpower to make the SLES12 kernel work well for our target audience, we should just use resort to using always the latest upstream version.
Yeah, the latest and greatest kernel was what I wished for 13.2. But I know that people have concerns about stability by this model. And indeed the regressions can't be zero. Richard and I chatted yesterday shortly after my post, and we thought of an alternative: stick with a stable kernel version, preferably a long-time support kernel. For example, we keep the kernel based on 4.1.x for some time. Even with this model, it remains as an open question whether we switch to yet another kernel some time later. And when and which version. IMO, it depends on the release schedule, and we can pick up the latest LTS kernel at that time. Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org